TAI TF-X / Milli Muharip Uçak MMU Kaan

[snne]

Apparently second prototype; looks like prototype 1 (tech demo) to me
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1879137731596652575

View: https://x.com/Defence_Turk/status/1879137731596652575

Even Erdogan's sign on the side panel is the same. Hence this is GTU-0, also known as P0.



Since there's no new revelation going on, can the mods delete these post please?

This is the latest update we've got on P1

 

[Combat-Master]

I know it's a stupid question, but has the picture been confirmed to be genuine? The angle has been photographed is strange, as if someone had photographed a Video Photo or Videoclip from the Canvas again.

I think the photo as the second prototype is a fake because Erdogan's signature is in the same position as on the first prototype.

Yeah, makes no sense to me either, especially when second prototype was still in early assembly process not so long ago, and probably still is.

December'2024


Supposedly, this source is suppose to be good too lol..

 

[Combat-Master]

Talking at a press conference, Industry Minister Fatih Kacır held one of the in-line processing modules of KAAN developed by TUBITAK BILGEM

https://twitter.com/x/status/1878842111782740250

View: https://x.com/avionot/status/1878842111782740250

 

[Combat-Master]

Apparently second prototype; looks like prototype 1 (tech demo) to me
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1879137731596652575

View: https://x.com/Defence_Turk/status/1879137731596652575

Second Kaan Prototype it is then, as the minister states in the video saying "this is the second Kaan, you (people at press event) are the first to see it"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879137810776756319

View: https://x.com/gdhdefence/status/1879137810776756319

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Prototype 2


Prototype 1

 

[Nart]

That is absolutely the first prototype. They probably showed the wrong image at the press briefing. Hate me all you want, but I firmly believe these so-called "reporters" are just too afraid to tell the truth. "The all mighty Head of SSB has spoken! Who are we to doubt his judgment!"

Edit: Check these pictures from Milliyet Newspaper, published on December 8, 2024. This is %100 the GTU-0/P0

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www.milliyet.com.tr

 

[0cu0]

I actually hope they lowered the cabin a little bit, like in the red highlighted area and it’s not just a different perspective on the first prototype.
That would be a step forward to make the fighter more eye pleasing (Less Angry-Bird vibe)

 

[Combat-Master]

"Kaan's new brochure shows new dimensions of aircraft. According to brochure, the length has shortened by 0.7m, the wingspan by 0.6m and the height by 1m."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1879202535472566766

View: https://x.com/T_Nblty/status/1879202535472566766

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DIMENSIONS / WEIGHT
Wing Span 13.4 m
Wing Area 71.6 m2
Length 20.3 m
Height 5 m (20 ft)
Maximum Take Off Weight 60,000 lb
Engine Thrust Class 2 x 29,000 lb
Maximum Speed 1.8 Mach (at 40,000 ft)
Service Ceiling 55,000 ft
Positive / Negative G Limit +9g / -3.5g

FEATURES
Multirole (Air-to-Air & Air-to-Ground)
Super Cruise Capability
High Maneuverability
Low Observability with Weapon Bays
Extended Combat Radius
Interoperable with Current & Future Assets
High Situational Awareness
Optimized Pilot Work Load
with Decision Support Capability
Within & Beyond Visual Range Missiles Employment
Precision Strike

New Generation Avionics
• Integrated Radio Frequency System
• Integrated Electro Optical System
• Integrated Communication Navigation Identifi cation System
• Integrated Modular Avionics
• Large Area Display
• Helmet Mounted Display

 

[snne]

We need a cleanup of low quality posts and speculations...

 

[Combat-Master]

We need a cleanup of low quality posts and speculations...

Oh, totally! Let’s turn the forum into a library of peer-reviewed essays. Who needs actual discussions anyway?

Don't get your knickers in a twist buddy!

 

[Deino]

Apparently second prototype; looks like prototype 1 (tech demo) to me
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1879137731596652575

View: https://x.com/Defence_Turk/status/1879137731596652575

IMO simply since this is P0

 

[Scott Kenny]

Maximum Take Off Weight 60,000 lb
Engine Thrust Class 2 x 29,000 lb

That's going to be a spicy plane, T:W of 0.97 at takeoff!

 

[snne]

That's going to be a spicy plane, T:W of 0.97 at takeoff!

I dare say the jet is actually 10 to 20k lb heavier cause even with all the new material advances and the innovative approach that TAI has taken; there's no way that a jet of this size and mission role is that light... Maybe these are only the specifications of the tech demo (P0/GTU-0) and the real prototypes and the serials after that will have different specifications due to mission payload?

I think an intern tasked with this specifications-update made a mistake or something, I mean yesterday we were also given the photos of GTU-0/P0 as supposedly the photos "P1".. This is quite literally a PR disaster (and not the first one at that!)...

 

[NMaude]

I think an intern tasked with this specifications-update made a mistake or something

so someone is going to be looking for a new job?

This is quite literally a PR disaster (and not the first one at that!)...

How is it a PR disaster?

 

[Combat-Master]

That's going to be a spicy plane, T:W of 0.97 at takeoff!

With the domestic engine, they are hoping to achieve 36,000lb of thrust wet. That would be 1.2T/W if the weight stays the same and 36k thrust is achieved with the domestic engine..