Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-35 News thread, pictures and discussion

116 Su-30SM + 20 Su-30M2 = 136

The Russian Ministry of Defense has announced the transfer of the next batch of modern fifth-generation Su-57 fighters to combat units of the Aerospace Forces (VKS). These high-tech combat vehicles are designed to perform the most difficult combat tasks, including gaining air superiority, destroying ground targets and conducting electronic warfare. In addition to the Su-57, the troops received new fighters of the 4++ Su-35S generation, which also significantly strengthens the capabilities of the Russian army in air operations. The Su-35S is famous for its high maneuverability, powerful weapons and the ability to fight both enemy aircraft and ground targets, which makes it one of the most versatile fighters of our time. The transfer of these fighters indicates the continued development of defense technologies in Russia and the strengthening of the Aerospace Forces against the background of global threats.
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Learn more at: https://avia.pro/news/vks-rossii-poluchili-novye-istrebiteli-su-57-i-su-35
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Alongside the latest Su-57 delivery there has been a Su-35 delivery as well, unfortunately no details of any kind have been released. Wonder why, perhaps because the latest Su-35 lot might have the (apparently) DIRCM installation we saw recently?
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Новые партии истребителей Су-57 и Су-35С для ВКС России

ПАО Объединенная авиастроительная корпорация (ОАК, входит в Госкорпорацию Ростех) 12 сентября 2024 года сообщило , что передало ВКС России партию новых самолетов Су-57 и Су-35С. Истребители пятого поколения Су-57 были приняты техническим составом, прошли полный цикл заводских…
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Defense Updates has a video out about the alleged shoot-down of an Su-30SM by an unidentified MANPADS fired from a Ukrainian oil-platform in the western Black Sea off the coast of Crimea:


The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense has released a video it claims shows the destruction of a Russian Su-30SM Flanker multirole fighter, reportedly downed by a shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile over the Black Sea.
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According to Ukrainian sources, the Su-30SM, which was part of the Russian Naval Aviation, was shot down while attempting to attack an oil platform in the Black Sea. The successful strike, using an undisclosed type of man-portable air defense system or MANPADS, was reportedly carried out by Ukrainian special forces from the Defense Intelligence Directorate (GUR).
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Some reports suggest that the aircraft was on a Suppression of Enemy Air Defence or SEAD mission and had fired 1-2 Kh-31P (AS-17 Krypton) anti-radiation missiles before it went down.
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A Russian Telegram channel, "Fighterbomber," has also confirmed the loss of the Su-30SM over the Black Sea, with Russian reports claiming the aircraft's crew was killed in the incident.The pro-Russian Telegram channel Rybar suggests that the Flanker may have been shot down during what it describes as a Ukrainian attempt to seize the Krym-2 oil platform. Unconfirmed reports indicate that a Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drone was used to monitor the engagement.
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In this video, Defense Updates reports why relatively cheap MANPADS can take out Russia’s frontline Su-30SM fighter?
#defenseupdates #ukrainekurskoffensive #ukrainerussiawar
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Chapters:
00:11 INTRODUCTION
02:38 SUKHOI Su-30SM
04:37 MANPADS
06:38 ANALYSIS
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I checked on the Su-30 wikipedia article and at the beginning of the Russo-Ukrainian the Russian airforce had 91 Su-30SM Flanker-Hs but has since lost about 12 (That are verifiable) so far.
 
Source(s) so far not reliable. I mean : russian milblogger, then National Interest ? meh.
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F-16 Fighting Falcon from Ukraine Has Shot Down Russian Su-34 Fullback Fighter-Bomber: Report

An F-16 Fighting Falcon, possibly supplied by Denmark earlier this year, has reportedly claimed its first air-to-air kill against a Russian Su-34 aircraft in Ukraine. The incident, which occurred around 30 miles from the frontlines, was first reported by pro-Kremlin milbloggers, though neither...
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Archibald said:
Source(s) so far not reliable. I mean : russian milblogger, then National Interest ? meh.
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National Interest is a _source_? This crapbarn just reposted Fighterbomber telegram news which is reliable if it deals with losses.
 
Recent post from said FB denies that Su-34 was shot, particularly F-16. By wording it either malfunction or pilot error.
 
That suchomimus guy is pretty flagrant stuff. Just saying it would be like posting some Russian telegram guy with his hot takes thrown in the mix.
 
Well the story is getting around:

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Breaking News: Ukrainian F-16 Fighter Wins First Air-to-Air Fight Shoots Down Russian Su-34

Breaking News: Ukrainian F-16 Fighter Wins First Air-to-Air Fight Shoots Down Russian Su-34
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This victory, Ukraine's first in air-to-air combat using the F-16, was achieved with the advanced AIM-9X Sidewinder missile, known for its infrared homing and high maneuverability. The AIM-9X, widely regarded for its lethality, gives the F-16 a significant edge in dogfights, able to engage enemy aircraft at high angles and within close-range combat scenarios.
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In current conditions, sraam shot down has to be very seriously proven.

Otherwise its likelihood is just next to a gun kill, in the realm of deep improbability. MRAAMs aren't doing much for last two years, and now it's WVR missile.
 
Well there's a dead plane and a dead crew, which isn't very normal for a technical malfunction at the altitude one would drop glide bombs from.
 
Forest Green said:
Well there's a dead plane and a dead crew, which isn't very normal for a technical malfunction at the altitude one would drop glide bombs from.
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And the F-16 leisurely flying WVR at 30.000 feet right over the combat zone isn't exactly the likeliest reason for it. Just one of those crushing in an accident (apparently not even an FF accident) was enough to bring down the head of the PSU.

Furthermore, and more importantly, Ukraine didn't claim it in the first place. Only ... questionable (mildly) telegram channels with no track records did.

Thus, unless proven otherwise, the answer is no clear answer.
 
It's not that unlikely, a SAM TEL has to put itself in harm's way to get near the front. SAM TELs have been like fish in a barrel for MLRS. It's also a proven fact that F-16s (and other aircraft) have been able to get close enough to the front to drop glide bombs. It's also a proven fact that Russia lost an Su-34 and crew.
 
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It's not that unlikely, a SAM TEL has to put itself in harm's way to get near the front. SAM TELs have been like fish in a barrel for MLRS. It's also a proven fact that F-16s (and other aircraft) have been able to get close enough to the front to drop glide bombs.
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Please kindly provide those proofs :)
Because I only saw them for other aircraft.

Also, getting close to FLOT at treetop is not exactly same as getting over FLET at altitude.
 
Ainen said:
Please kindly provide those proofs:)
Because I only saw them for other aircraft.

Also, getting close to FLOT at treetop is not exactly the same as getting over FLET at altitude.
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Go check the JDAM thread. The frontline is not as well SAM protected as you think.

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Ukraine's getting powerful long-range glide bombs from the US that will give its F-16s a new punch

The US is sending Ukraine the AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon, a powerful munition with a 70-mile range.
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I very much doubt iran has the capability to build su-35, or even su-30 for that matter. And russia dosnt seem to to have the spare capacity to help iran build that capability, Maybe after the war with ukraine.
 
Deino said:
Can we stop posting this site? In recent times it became as much a spreader of nonsense like Bulgarian-BS-com, NationalInterest and some Indian sites.
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Unfortunately have to agree with Deino...

Love Xaviers in-person coverage of various expositions on their YouTube channel, but their news articles have seen a serious dip in quality this year. Extremely long winded and speculative writing - like whomever their paying has a word count to hit :p
 
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According to posts of Russian sources associated with Russian military aviation a Russian Su-34 was shot down or crashed somewhere along with the crew Krasnodarskiy kray - Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com

According to posts of Russian sources associated with Russian military aviation a Russian Su-34 was shot down or crashed somewhere along with the crew. Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of...
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1852260202176761944
View: https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1852260202176761944
 
Deino said:
Can we stop posting this site? In recent times it became as much a spreader of nonsense like Bulgarian-BS-com, NationalInterest and some Indian sites.
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I respectfully disagree. Like all sources, sites like this provide interesting, potentially useful information--if you do not take what they say at face value and instead ask yourself why it is being said. Even the ostensibly most reliable sources should always be considered with a grain of salt (I seem to remember something about aluminum tubes, for example).
 

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