Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-35 News thread, pictures and discussion

Deino said:
Can we stop posting this site? In recent times it became as much a spreader of nonsense like Bulgarian-BS-com, NationalInterest and some Indian sites.
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I respectfully disagree. Like all sources, sites like this provide interesting, potentially useful information--if you do not take what they say at face value and instead ask yourself why it is being said. Even the ostensibly most reliable sources should always be considered with a grain of salt (I seem to remember something about aluminum tubes, for example).
 
According to the website of the German aviation magazine "Flug Revue" from today, the journalist Babak Taghvaee reports, that the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) received its first two Sukhoi Su-35SE at a private ceremony at the Komsomolsk Amur Aircraft Plant (KnAAPO) on November 18th, 2024. The multi-role fighter jets were disassembled and then flown to Mehrabad Airport in Tehran, the capital of Iran, on an Antonov An-124-100 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces. From there, the aircraft will be taken to the 3rd Tactical Air Force Base near the city of Hamadan to be reassembled. Originally, the IRIAF only wanted to replace the Grumman F-14A Tomcat in Isfahan with the Sukhois, but the order for the Su-35SE was increased from 25 to 50 aircraft. This will also allow the air force to retire some of its ageing F-4E Phantom IIs, which are currently in service with the 31st Tactical Fighter Wing in Hamadan.

I haven't found another or more sources to confirm this news.
IMHO and unfortunately this news report is not acceptable at this moment. :confused: :(
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Our German member and moderator @Deino just confirmed on a German aviation forum, that this news is highly dubious. A rumour was falsely presented as a fact.
 
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fightingirish said:
According to the website of the German aviation magazine "Flug Revue" from today, the journalist Babak Taghvaee reports, that the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) received its first two Sukhoi Su-35SE at a private ceremony at the Komsomolsk Amur Aircraft Plant (KnAAPO) on November 18th, 2024. The multi-role fighter jets were disassembled and then flown to Mehrabad Airport in Tehran, the capital of Iran, on an Antonov An-124-100 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces. From there, the aircraft will be taken to the 3rd Tactical Air Force Base near the city of Hamadan to be reassembled. Originally, the IRIAF only wanted to replace the Grumman F-14A Tomcat in Isfahan with the Sukhois, but the order for the Su-35SE was increased from 25 to 50 aircraft. This will also allow the air force to retire some of its ageing F-4E Phantom IIs, which are currently in service with the 31st Tactical Fighter Wing in Hamadan.

I haven't found another or more sources to confirm this news.
IMHO and unfortunately this news report is not acceptable at this moment. :confused: :(
Edit:
Our German member and moderator @Deino just confirmed on a German aviation forum, that this news is highly dubious. A rumour was falsely presented as a fact.
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It is allegedly based on this source : https://gstu.by/news/2024-08-05-163588
 
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Sorry folks, but until I see real, non-photoshopped pictures of the Su-35 in Iranian camouflage, I won't give any creability to these news reports. :confused:
 
Iran has agreed to buy Russian-made Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighters, a top military official says, disclosing the move as it also showcased homegrown advances in drone development.

“We are increasing the capacity of the air force with domestic and foreign equipment, and whenever necessary, we make military purchases to strengthen our air, land, and naval force,” Brig. Gen. l Ali Shadmani, deputy coordinator of the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters of the Iranian Armed Forces, told the local military-affiliated DefaPress outlet on Jan. 27. He did not say how many aircraft Iran was planning to acquire.

Iran later tried to muddy the disclosure, deleting the reference to the Su-35. But the reference can still be found in Google cache, said Yuri Lyamin, a researcher at the Moscow-based defense think tank Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST).

Shadmani’s pronouncement is the first official confirmation of Tehran’s purchase of the Russian fighters that has long been suspected to be in the works. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the issue.


The deal became possible after the United Nations arms embargo against Iran was lifted in 2020. Iran’s mission to the U.N. says the purchase was technically approved by Tehran in 2023. To prepare for the Su-35’s arrival, Iran agreed to buy Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainers, which are used by the Russia Air Force to train pilots to operate the larger Sukhoi fighters.

CAST’s Lyamin says Iran has shown it is adept at hiding new aircraft. The first pair of Yak-130s were flying in Isfahan in September 2023. Photos that appeared in December 2024 showed that Tehran had already received at least six aircraft.

CAST director Ruslan Pukhov added that Su-35 deliveries to Iran are likely to begin in 18-24 months, when Russian aircraft makers will be able to start fulfilling the order. Moscow’s defense industry is largely focused on addressing the country’s needs in its war with Ukraine.
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Tehran Confirms Su-35 Purchase From Russia | Aviation Week Network

Iran later tried to muddy the disclosure, deleting the reference to the Su-35.
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AGS-1787 said:
Are there any details about an su-30 shooting down an Ukrainian su-27 from 130km away recently? On that note are there confirmed kill markings on Russian jets?
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Only that it was made with an R-37M (so probably a naval Su-30SM2?) and the loss of the Su-27 and pilot are confirmed. Paralay posted recently a picture of MiG-31BM with kill markings so there are definitely doing that. Between Su-30SM, Su-35 and MiG-31BMs the VKS/VMF must have at the very least dozens of air to air kills against manned air assets of the enemy, and at least hundreds if counting drones, cruise missiles and the like.

Anyway, according to this, in 2025 new versions of Su-57 and Su-35 will be delivered. To focus on Su-35, any idea of the upgrades, is this the long awaited Su-35SM? It seems almost certain than among the upgrades it will feature a DIRCM, probably same one as Su-57.
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View: https://x.com/MrFrantarelli/status/1886457114320888300
 
lancer21 said:
Only that it was made with an R-37M (so probably a naval Su-30SM2?) and the loss of the Su-27 and pilot are confirmed. Paralay posted recently a picture of MiG-31BM with kill markings so there are definitely doing that. Between Su-30SM, Su-35 and MiG-31BMs the VKS/VMF must have at the very least dozens of air to air kills against manned air assets of the enemy, and at least hundreds if counting drones, cruise missiles and the like.

Anyway, according to this, in 2025 new versions of Su-57 and Su-35 will be delivered. To focus on Su-35, any idea of the upgrades, is this the long awaited Su-35SM? It seems almost certain than among the upgrades it will feature a DIRCM, probably same one as Su-57.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1886457114320888300
View: https://x.com/MrFrantarelli/status/1886457114320888300
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Honestly, this guy on "X" is at best a well-known fan-boy who constantly posts any news on Russian systems as long as they sound optimistic and especially this sentence - in 2025 new versions of Su-57 and Su-35 will be delivered - is a claim that was reported already in 2023, then in 2024 and now again or still in early 2025. I would prefer to wait until we see anything or get confirmation by a much more credible true "source".
 
So the director of KnAAPO is not a "credible true source"... riiiight. :rolleyes:

Anyway, i've clearly seen what i believe to be DIRCM turrets on new built Su-35s, so that's pretty much settled for me. Again i'm much more interested to hear from folks who actually know their stuff regarding russian aviation whether there is more info as to other potential upgrades.
 
Dircm on Su-35S? Maybe we’ll wait till they at least complete the MAWS system to cover 360°?
 
lancer21 said:
So the director of KnAAPO is not a "credible true source"... riiiight. :rolleyes:

Anyway, i've clearly seen what i believe to be DIRCM turrets on new built Su-35s, so that's pretty much settled for me. Again i'm much more interested to hear from folks who actually know their stuff regarding russian aviation whether there is more info as to other potential upgrades.
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And since when do such credible sources like the "director of KnAAPO" or based on them Russia media outlets claim the same already?

The point is not to question a person as a source, but not to forget - especially under the current political situation - that these representatives have also a duty as politicians and as such their claims sometimes need to be put into a certain context and not rated as a direct fact!

You might disagree and again put a :mad: as a reply under this comment, but that doesn't change facts, neither my comment nor does it make his claims reality. Again, we need to wait until we see all these news gems on an improved Su-35S or indeed an AL-51F-powered Su-57M.
 
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NovaGA said:
Dircm on Su-35S? Maybe we’ll wait till they at least complete the MAWS system to cover 360°?
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It has had spherical MAWS coverage (6 staring sensors in an arrangement similar to the F-22 & F-35) from day one.

lancer21 said:
Please see images below, and discussion here. @QuadroFX
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That's not DIRCM, but the standard lower fore/aft MAWS sensor pair without its fairing.
 
Trident said:
It has had spherical MAWS coverage (6 staring sensors in an arrangement similar to the F-22 & F-35) from day one.
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The Su-35 MAWS is uv-based, though, so the systems aren't really comparable, imo, & why do they put laser warning receivers on the fighter? If this were an Su-25, that would make a lot more sense, but not for a platform like The Su-35, I don't think, as even if a the use of a laser rangefinder is detected (by an opposing aircraft?), at that kind of range, you're probably already dead, anyway.
 
Joint Soviet Fighter said:
How odd. It's not like anyone is out here slinging Starstreaks at another plane, lol, or maybe I'm just looking at the entire concept incorrectly.
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I doubt it's realistic to detect laser guidance channel until moments before impact.

It's clearly for LRF, either from Russian fighters, or ambushing TELRs.
 
Joint Soviet Fighter said:
The Su-35 MAWS is uv-based, though, so the systems aren't really comparable, imo, & why do they put laser warning receivers on the fighter? If this were an Su-25, that would make a lot more sense, but not for a platform like The Su-35, I don't think, as even if a the use of a laser rangefinder is detected (by an opposing aircraft?), at that kind of range, you're probably already dead, anyway.
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Su-35 MAWS is not UV based but IIR. As for LWR, it is useful to know if and from where you are being irradiated by a LRF or something else.
 
Saber said:
Su-35 MAWS is not UV based but IIR. As for LWR, it is useful to know if and from where you are being irradiated by a LRF or something else.
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I very much doubt that about The Su-35 MAWS, especially as none of the information about the various defensive systems even mentions the method of detection, & in terms of lwr, I understand the overall concept, but at that kind of range (30 km, max), you're probably already dead, anyway.
 

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