Dassault Rafale NEWS ONLY

[Deltafan]

https://www.defesaaereanaval.com.br...-cacas-rafale-obus-caesar-e-mais-um-submarino This is just one of the news(in Portuguese) about the subject. The original report was done by journalist Cláudio Dantas, who works for a news channel(Jovem Pan, which grew from a radio station).

On November 2, I did a search and the original document was the web page of the Brazilian journalist Claudio Dantas in a publication of October 30, but there was no question of a second-hand Rafale.

A blackfriday de Macron no G20

O G20 será uma grande feira de equipamentos militares. Além da italiana Giorgia Meloni, que quer vender caças leves M346; o presidente francês, Manuel Macron, também vai trazer sua cesta de equipamentos. Na lista, estão 50 helicópteros Airbus 145, 24 caças Rafale, 36 obuseiros sobre rodas Caesar...

claudiodantas.com.br

The G20 will be a major trade fair for military equipment. In addition to the Italian Giorgia Meloni, who wants to sell M346 light fighters; French President Manuel Macron will also bring his basket of equipment. On the list are 50 Airbus 145 helicopters, 24 Rafale fighters, 36 Caesar wheeled howitzers and an additional Scorpene submarine.
(...)
Now, the French want to replace the Italian AMX fighters and Blackhawk helicopters purchased from the United States. The current Brazilian military leadership is excited about the resumption of a strategic partnership and Lula's anti-Zionist stance can be taken advantage of by the French.

And, in the link you provide, the article from October 31, which repeats the article from the Dantas webpage from October 30, does not indicate that it is a question of second-hand Rafale.

 

[Kurapika444]

24 used Rafale... But from where?

How many used Rafales do they have in stock? Seems like they've got a lot to spare

 

[Archibald]

The oldest Rafales are
-the Aéronavale Rafale M (2001)
-the early Rafale F2 (2004). This is where the second-hand airframe were taken for Greece and Croatia (from memory - the countries).

 

[Deltafan]

How many used Rafales do they have in stock? Seems like they've got a lot to spare

I don't understand "In stock" and "Lot to spare". AFAIK, they are all in service. Now, I don't know the availability (the French Air Force hasn't been allowed to publish availability figures for a few years anyway). Otherwise, all French Rafales must be upgraded to F3R standard: the operation began in 2018, and half were equipped in 2021.

There were 9 Rafale M in tranche 1 (all in service) and 16 Rafale M, 25 Rafale B and 7 Rafale C in tranche 2 (=48) . I don't know the numbering of each of the second-hand aircraft exported, but as Greece and Croatia have ordered, second hand, two Rafale Bs and 10 Rafale Cs, each, there are, mathematically, necessarily Rafale Cs of tranche 3 (12M, 11B and 36C = 59) among those sold to them.

 

[H_K]

I don't know the numbering of each of the second-hand aircraft exported

Here are the 12 used Rafales delivered to Greece and first 6 (of 12) to Croatia.

The two seaters were all 16-17 year old Tranche 2.
The single seaters were all ~12 year old Tranche 3 (except for 1 older T2).

Tranche 2 (delivered 2004-2006)
B305 / 2004
B306 / 2005
B315 / 2006 (Croatia)
B318 / 2006 (Croatia)
C103 / 2005

Tranche 3 (delivered 2009 - 2013)
C111 / 2009
C112 / 2009
C118 / 2010
C120 / 2010
C123 / 2010
C124 / 2010 (Croatia)
C128 / 2011
C131 / 2011 (Croatia)
C134 / 2012
C137 / 2012
C141 / 2013 (Croatia)
C143 / 2013
C144 / 2013 (Croatia)

The first batch of 6 Greek Rafales was transferred in late 2021, the 2nd batch in late 2022/early 2023.
The first batch of 6 Croatian Rafales was transferred in late 2023... 2nd batch expected early 2025.

I expect the 6 remaining Croatian Rafale Cs to also be from Tranche 3, and any future second hand sales to be a similar mix of T2 Rafale B and T3 Rafale C.