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Pegasus 2024: Aviators left Alaska to join Japan​

Direction: Air / Published on: July 22, 2024
On July 19, the Aviators of the Pacific Skies component of the Pegasus mission left the United States, after 2 weeks of intense "Arctic Defender" exercise, to Japan as part of a valued stopover.
Pegasus 2024: Aviators left Alaska to join Japan

Pegasus 2024: Aviators left Alaska to join Japan

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After several hours of flight, the crews crossed the route of the date change line. Thus, by taking off on Thursday, July 18 at 9:00 a.m., the Rafale, A330 MRTT and A400M landed on Friday, July 19 at 9:00 a.m. also. It was also a first time for the Rafale.
Upon arriving in Japanese airspace, the A330 MRTT and the two Rafale were joined by a patrol of three F-2s from the Japan Air Self-Defence Force (JASDF), two EA-18s and a P-8 from the US Navy, in order to participate in a joint training.
Pegasus 2024: Aviators left Alaska to join Japan

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The Aviators were warmly welcomed by their Japanese comrades, Japanese and French flags in hand, symbolizing the friendship that binds the two countries. Sharing, discovery and visits of their respective aircraft, patch exchanges, static exhibitions, conference with the local press organized by the French Embassy in Japan, so many moments of exchange leaving in the memory of our Aviators, some unforgettable memories.
Pegasus 2024: Aviators left Alaska to join Japan

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After these 24 hours of valued stopover, the Pacific Skies detachment is heading to Australia for a trilateral arrival in Darwin for Exercise Pitch Black 24. The French detachment already present on site is preparing to welcome them with open arms.Was
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Been a midair collision between a single seater and tandem seater during a training flight out of Saint-Dizier. Pilot of the single seater ejected and recovered the two in the tandem seater are missing.

www.lemonde.fr

Two French Rafale fighters collide in eastern France

One pilot was found, while a search was underway for the two crew members aboard the other jet.
www.lemonde.fr www.lemonde.fr
 
They were back from a refueling training mission in Germany :
Un accident impliquant deux avions Rafale de l'armée de l'Air et de l'Espace s'est produit mercredi en milieu de journée en Meurthe-et-Moselle et des "opérations de recherche" de deux pilotes ont été engagées, selon la préfecture et l'état-major. Deux avions de chasse de l'escadron de transformation Rafale (ETR) de la base aérienne de Saint-Dizier (Haute-Marne) sont entrés en collision l'un avec l'autre, a indiqué à l'AFP un porte-parole de l'armée de l'Air et de l'Espace à Paris.

"Des enquêtes de sécurité et judiciaires sont ouvertes pour faire la lumière sur les raisons de cet accident", a déclaré l'Armée de l'air sur le réseau X (ex-Twitter). Selon cette dernière, les deux avions revenaient d'une mission de ravitaillement en Allemagne.
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An accident involving two Rafale aircraft from the Air and Space Force occurred Wednesday at midday in Meurthe-et-Moselle and "search operations" for two pilots have been launched, according to the prefecture and the general staff. Two fighter jets from the Rafale transformation squadron (ETR) at the Saint-Dizier air base (Haute-Marne) collided with each other, a spokesperson for the Air and Space Force in Paris told AFP.

"Security and legal investigations are being opened to shed light on the reasons for this accident," the Air Force said on the X network (formerly Twitter). According to the latter, the two planes were returning from a refueling mission in Germany.
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Interestingly, there was also, grossly at the same time, an incident in Cologne, 80nm North, that resulted in the closure of a base.

Notice the opening of a Judiciary investigation so early (I do not here relate both events).
 
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Fourth and fifth Rafale losses. Second collision (the Navy lost two in 2009), third AdA loss (in 2007 a Rafale made a controlled flight into the ground). Three pilots dead, total.
That's obviously sad, but compared to Mirage III losses in the 1960's alone, it's nothing.

A (dumb) basic search at Aviation Safety Database with the entry "Dassault""Mirage" gets 783 mishaps.

Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety WikiBase > ASN Aviation Safety Database results

Aviation Safety Network: Aviation Safety Network: Databases containing descriptions of over 11000 airliner write-offs, hijackings and military aircraft accidents.
asn.flightsafety.org
 
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www.eielson.af.mil

Indian Air Force participates in RF-A 24-2

Indian Air Force maintainers prepare Rafale aircraft for takeoff during Red Flag-Alaska 24-2 at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, June 6, 2024. Integrating forces strengthens joint planning,
www.eielson.af.mil

Media of Indian Air Force Rafales participating in Red Flag-Alaska 24-2.
Archibald said:
Fourth and fifth Rafale losses.
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Actually, these are the sixth and seventh losses; there was a crash in 2010 near Pakistan and one in 2012 in the Mediterranean, both M variants. Overall, it's still much safer than the Mirage. Crashes make headlines but all modern combat aircraft have much better safety records than their predecessors.
 
R.I.P. to the pilots ...... I hope if there are lessons to be learned, they should be shared such that their death will not be in vain ......
 
icyplanetnhc (Steve) said:
www.eielson.af.mil

Indian Air Force participates in RF-A 24-2

Indian Air Force maintainers prepare Rafale aircraft for takeoff during Red Flag-Alaska 24-2 at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, June 6, 2024. Integrating forces strengthens joint planning,
www.eielson.af.mil

Media of Indian Air Force Rafales participating in Red Flag-Alaska 24-2.

Actually, these are the sixth and seventh losses; there was a crash in 2010 near Pakistan and one in 2012 in the Mediterranean, both M variants. Overall, it's still much safer than the Mirage. Crashes make headlines but all modern combat aircraft have much better safety records than their predecessors.
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D'oh, silly me.
 
It is at least another 30 years to find a common ancestor of them all.

Translation: Despite the previous existance as a Lavi clone the Yugoslav jet is not a single engine Rafale. Only ended up that way.

Oh, just noticed a comment. Will gladly help the aviation history in due course.
 
okakac said:
It is at least another 30 years to find a common ancestor of them all.

Translation: Despite the previous existance as a Lavi clone the Yugoslav jet is not a single engine Rafale. Only ended up that way.

Oh, just noticed a comment. Will gladly help the aviation history in due course.
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What is up with you, mate? I'm not saying that it is a straight up single engined version of the Rafale; I'm just likening this configuration to what a possible single engine version of Rafale could look like. And there's nothing wrong with that since Dassault actually provided technical support to SOKO.

Anyway, why are you the way you are?

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@Sintra : At least, let him/her expresses his/her opinion.

@okakac : How would you articulate the chain of events? Could you explain in more detail your position on that matter?
 
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TomcatViP said:
@Sintra : At least, let him/her expresssed his/her opinion.

@okakac : How would you articulate the chain of events? Could you explain in more detail your position on that matter?
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An "opinion" backed up by nothing and easily dispeled by every single book or article written on the subject for the last three decades.
I would expect that anyone that comes to a place like this forum and makes outlandish claims to show some evidence... If not there´s a very good chance of being called out.
Yes, the "its secret" and "marketing arguments" annoy´s a bit.
 
Apparently, Pavel Durov is a UAE citizen <edit> and a French citizen, and Russian </edit>.
The UAE harbours many rich residents who, for various reasons, have chosen to settle away from their country of birth.
Others, not so rich, tend to stay for shorter periods.
 
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stimpy75 said:
eadaily.com

Due to Durov's arrest, the UAE froze the contract for the purchase of fighter jets from France - mass media: EADaily

EADaily, August 27th, 2024. After being detained in Paris Telegram founder Pavel Durov The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is considering the possibility of a complete blockade of military-technical cooperation with France. This is reported by the portal Avia.pro with reference to the media.
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guess there is more to that
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Yeah, when something appears on twitter it appears on a whole bunch of other fake news sites that nobody has ever heard of.

The Russian news agency EurAsia Daily, abbreviated EADaily, was founded in 2015. It states that its main activity is to give an objective overview of politics and social processes in Eurasia. The editorial office is based in Moscow, with correspondents and observers in several of Russia’s neighboring countries: Armenia, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, as well as in Russia’s dependent regions such as Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria.
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Possibly wait until it appears somewhere more well known. For instance, official French media should be going bat-shit crazy over it if it were a fact.
 
I didn't read this thread,

but as I heard and I am not believe,the Rafale can beaten Sukhoi Su-35,is that true ?.
 
In the right circumstances, any aircraft aircraft can shot down any other one.

Both Rafale and Su-35 are 4.5 gen, both use similar technologies (AESA, long range Fox3, some treatments for reduced RCS, comprehensive EW suite...
Su-35 doesn't have anything special (stealth for example) to place it above the Rafale (or Typhoon, Gripen E/F)...
 
Manuducati said:
In the right circumstances, any aircraft aircraft can shot down any other one.

Both Rafale and Su-35 are 4.5 gen, both use similar technologies (AESA, long range Fox3, some treatments for reduced RCS, comprehensive EW suite...
Su-35 doesn't have anything special (stealth for example) to place it above the Rafale (or Typhoon, Gripen E/F)...
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Not in dogfight,but in avionics ?.
 
hesham said:
Not in dogfight,but in avionics ?.
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Chinese J-11 were said to be superior to the Gripen in WVR combat, but similar or only slightly superior to the J-10 which routinely kill each other in WVR training. Rafale and Su-35 have more thrust than any of those jets so I don’t see why they couldn’t kill each other. The lack of an HMD is probably a bigger handicap for the Rafale.
 
hesham said:
Not in dogfight,but in avionics ?.
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There have been articles about electronic warfare tests between Rafale and Su-35 in Egypt, where the Rafale won, but, as far as I know, it was fake news. Apparently these tests never took place. The sources were a Breaking Defense article and a tweet, both from Mahmoud Gamal, but I never found either. They both disappeared.

Then, as at one time Russia bought Western equipment, notably French, to equip the Flanker series aircraft,
fr.wikipedia.org

Soukhoï Su-30 — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org fr.wikipedia.org
I imagine that French electronics was superior to Russians in terms of avionics, especially now that Russia has struggling to equip themselves with Western components. But perhaps that will change in the future, especially with China's possible aid to Russia.
 
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