Dassault Rafale NEWS ONLY

[Deltafan]

Perhaps the announcement of the sale of 12 Rafale to Serbia tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, on the occasion of President Macron's visit to Serbia.

La Serbie sur le point de s'offrir le Rafale de Dassault Aviation

Dassault Aviation devrait signer un contrat Rafale avec la Serbie (12 avions de combat). Cette nouvelle commande permettrait à l'avionneur d'accrocher à l'export un huitième pays à la liste des forces armées qui ont choisi l'avion de combat tricolore.

www.latribune.fr

The two capitals - Paris and Belgrade - both want this transaction. “Our hope is to see this discussion come to fruition on the occasion of the visit” of Emmanuel Macron to Serbia at the invitation of the Serbian president, explained the Élysée. Aleksandar Vucic told AFP on Wednesday that he hoped to conclude the highly anticipated purchase of French fighter planes during the French president's visit.

 

[Sintra]

Both Rafale and Su-35 are 4.5 gen, both use similar technologies (AESA, long range Fox3, some treatments for reduced RCS, comprehensive EW suite...

Small correction, Irbis E is a PESA not an AESA.

Cheers

 

[Sintra]

The lack of an HMD is probably a bigger handicap for the Rafale.

Elbit Targo II and Thales Scorpion both are integrated with Rafale, the first is already operational with the Indian and Qatari Airforces.

Cheers

 

[Manuducati]

More here about the Scorpion helmet for illustration purpose:

DGA Orders Helmet-Mounted Sight And Display Systems For French Rafales - Naval News

Thales has received an order from the French defence procurement agency (DGA) for 350 Scorpion® helmet-mounted sight and display systems and 400 digital multi-function displays.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Deltafan]

Just now, the French news channel BFM TV is broadcasting a banner on which it is written that "Serbia has concluded the purchase of 12 French Rafale combat aircraft in the presence of Emmanuel Macron."

Edit :

La Serbie fait l’acquisition de 12 Rafale - Press kits de Dassault Aviation

Éric Trappier a signé ce jour à Belgrade, avec le Ministre serbe de la Défense, Bratislav Gašić, un contrat portant sur l’acquisition de 12 Rafale pour équiper la Force aérienne et la Défense aérienne des Forces armées serbes. © Dassault Aviation - C. Cosmao

www.dassault-aviation.com

 

[hesham]

There have been articles about electronic warfare tests between Rafale and Su-35 in Egypt, where the Rafale won, but, as far as I know, it was fake news. Apparently these tests never took place. The sources were a Breaking Defense article and a tweet, both from Mahmoud Gamal, but I never found either. They both disappeared.

Then, as at one time Russia bought Western equipment, notably French, to equip the Flanker series aircraft,

Soukhoï Su-30 — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org

I imagine that French electronics was superior to Russians in terms of avionics, especially now that Russia has struggling to equip themselves with Western components. But perhaps that will change in the future, especially with China's possible aid to Russia.

They told us that,the radar of Rafale make a blind vision to Su-35,of course I don't mean any offence,because
I know the Sukhoi Su-35 is one of the best fighter have been ever made in my opinion,but I can't believe this ?.

 

[Cjc]

Maybe 12 more Rafales for the United Arab Emirates

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/international-dealmaking/2024/07/08/abu-dhabi-in-secret-talks-to-buy-more-rafales,110254931-art

As usual : to be confirmed

And apparently the hole deal is in jeparty do to the telegram ceo being arrested.

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-uae-cancels-20-billion-rafale-deal-with-france-despite-telegram-ceos-release-3595771/lite/

 

[Deltafan]

They told us that,the radar of Rafale make a blind vision to Su-35,of course I don't mean any offence,because
I know the Sukhoi Su-35 is one of the best fighter have been ever made in my opinion,but I can't believe this ?.

It was never confirmed and the original source removed the original article and tweet. For me, this is fake news.

 

[Forest Green]

And apparently the hole deal is in jeparty do to the telegram ceo being arrested.

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-uae-cancels-20-billion-rafale-deal-with-france-despite-telegram-ceos-release-3595771/lite/

Does that even look like a real website?

 

[Deltafan]

And apparently the hole deal is in jeparty do to the telegram ceo being arrested.

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-uae-cancels-20-billion-rafale-deal-with-france-despite-telegram-ceos-release-3595771/lite/

No, it's fake news too... Already debunked Yesterday...

Among others:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828703107607323068

View: https://x.com/politblogme/status/1828703107607323068

Truth or Fake - Telegram boss's arrest: Fake Al Jazeera video claims France lost $17 billion in UAE arms deal

Although he was only in French police custody for a few days before his release under judicial supervision, disinformation surrounding the Russian-born Telegram founder Pavel Durov has hit the internet.…

www.france24.com

$17B Setback For French Rafales? Concocted News Of UAE Suspending Dassault Deal Traps Global Media

In the era of digital news and social media, news travels fast. But fake news travels faster and wider. This was recently illustrated by the extensive coverage regarding the UAE’s purported suspension of its historic Rafale agreement in light of “supposed” diplomatic strains with France. The...

www.eurasiantimes.com

 

[Forest Green]

Another fake story developed by the lying people.

 

[hesham]

It was never confirmed and the original source removed the original article and tweet. For me, this is fake news.

I supposed that also.

 

[TomcatViP]

Nobody made the remark, but it´s fair to say that 3b$ is an expensive amount to spend for 12 Rafale.
Last Belgium F-35 deal was for 34 airframe (nearly 3 times as much airframe) for 6,5b$ (2018), latest Block. Factor 25% inflation and you are still on the loosing side with the 4th Gen Dassault jet.

Let´s hope that Belgrade got some advantageous terms on the financial side.

 

[H_K]

it´s fair to say that 3b$ is an expensive amount to spend for 12 Rafale.

Let´s hope that Belgrade got some advantageous terms on the financial side.

Hard to tell because we don’t know the details of the package and in particular whether financing costs are included in the quoted price. It’s not uncommon for accumulated interest to greatly increase the package cost, especially if you’re a country with poor credit (like Serbia).

If you look at neighboring Bulgaria they had to put 100% cash down for 16 F-16Vs and that cost them $2.7B for deliveries in 2025-27. If they had gotten export financing (say at a 3-4% interest rate for 10+ years) the package cost would have been much higher, and probably not that dissimilar on a per aircraft basis to Serbia’s Rafale deal.