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https://www.dassault-aviation.com/e...the-final-tranche-of-18-rafale-for-indonesia/

Entry into force. guess it's official now that we are procuring 42/42 Rafale.

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Well guess i can celebrate by having simple RCS comparison between Rafale with IFR probe and without one

https://twitter.com/x/status/1744828899085926794
View: https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1744828899085926794


The result is, almost identical. tho not really linear. The contribution of the probe is about +- 0.1 sqm

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If used in Radar Range equation, that correspond to about 2% changes in detection range. Guess it's a small cost.
 
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Delivery from 2027 to 2032 (on average, 8 per year) :

breakingdefense.com

France places $5.5 billion order for 42 new Rafale fighters - Breaking Defense

Sebastien Lecornu, the French armed forces minister, said the order “is excellent news for our sovereignty, our security and our armed forces who will benefit from extra Rafales with modernised operational capacities.”
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Notice a ratio of roughly 1 to 2 regarding Indian last order.
 
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Production delivery for the last 2 years:

2022: 14
2023: 13

www.boursorama.com

Dassault Aviation : légère baisse des livraisons de Rafale

(AOF) - Dassault Aviation a dressé le bilan de son activité commerciale 2023. Le constructeur aéronautique indique que 60 Rafale ont été commandés (42 France, 18 Indonésie) contre 92 Rafale Export en 2022. 18 "Rafale Indonésie" supplémentaires sont entrés
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Nothing is done (and I still think the Saudis will prefer to buy the 48 Typhoons delayed by the Germans), but just in case...
To enhance and discuss ways of joint cooperation between the two parties, we were honored to host the French delegation from
@Dassault_OnAir company, at #الإلكترونيات_المتقدمة headquarters, and they were received by CEO Eng. Ziad Al Musallam
@ziadHM , where they were briefed on the company’s most prominent solutions and products.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1747602544212250654
View: https://twitter.com/AECSaudiArabia/status/1747602544212250654?s=20
 
As said before, Rafale deal (at the request of Saudi Arabia due to the German embargo, now canceled, on the Typhoon) in Saoudia is not done...

WDS: Three-way dogfight for Saudi fighter order | Times Aerospace

Previously it had been assumed this requirement would be for a new batch of Eurofighter Typhoons, but KSA has been looking at other options following a German ban on exporting the type to Saudi Arabia.
www.timesaerospace.aero www.timesaerospace.aero
 
Forest Green said:
www.spacewar.com

France complains of Russian 'threats' to military

Paris (AFP) Feb 22, 2024 - France's air force pilots have been threatened with attack by Russian forces during patrol missions in international air space in a sign of rising tensions, French Defence Minister Sebastien Lecornu said Thursday.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1677006722580242433
View: https://twitter.com/EtatMajorFR/status/1677006722580242433?s=20
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But that's ancient, it's not a new.
 
www.globaldefensecorp.com

Dassault Aviation Delivers Six Rafale Out Of Twelve To Croatia

Croatia has taken over formal ownership of the Dassault Rafale combat aircraft to be received from France. The Croatian Ministry of Defence (MoD) announced the development on 23 February, saying it now owns the first six of 12 Rafales it has ordered. This milestone came about five months...
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www.linkedin.com

Bruno Etchenic on LinkedIn: Rapport financier Dassault Aviation 2023

La publication des résultats 2023 de Dassault Aviation a eu lieu ce matin, sur l'iconique péniche "Le Talisman". Voici un compte rendu "à chaud" sur le sujet…
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For the production of the Rafale, the rate 3/month began in Seclin for the production of primary parts. With a manufacturing duration of 36 months, we will therefore have to wait until 2026-27 to see 3 Rafales leave Mérignac every month. The delivery rate will therefore gradually reach 2 aircraft per month (20 aircraft to be delivered in 2024).

The supply chain problems encountered throughout the global aeronautics sector will continue during 2024, but as for deliveries for the Rafale, the risks are limited and involve relatively anecdotal delivery delays. Two Rafales planned for the Air and Space Force were, for example, delivered at the start of the year instead of at the end of last year (13 aircraft delivered out of 15 in 2023)
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I think we could make some good usage of a direct link to the video and Pics (from AP) for the fans here ;)

(while waiting for a photo shoot of some low flying action along the beautifully crafted sea shores of Croatia)

View: https://youtu.be/VpeEom-xWzc


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apnews.com

Croatian officials welcome the arrival of Rafale fighter jets purchased from France

The first six of 12 Rafale multipurpose fighter jets purchased by Croatia from France have landed at an air force base near Zagreb with a welcome ceremony attended by top officials.
apnews.com apnews.com
 
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TomcatViP said:
I think we could make some good usage of a direct link to the video and Pics (from AP) for the fans here ;)

(while waiting for a photo shoot of some low flying action along the beautifully crafted sea shores of Croatia)

View: https://youtu.be/VpeEom-xWzc


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apnews.com

Croatian officials welcome the arrival of Rafale fighter jets purchased from France

The first six of 12 Rafale multipurpose fighter jets purchased by Croatia from France have landed at an air force base near Zagreb with a welcome ceremony attended by top officials.
apnews.com apnews.com
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Done, First of may they made a fly-off along all Croatia to commemorate Operacjia Bljesak.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amItlfQATQo&t=390s


en.wikipedia.org

Operation Flash - Wikipedia

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Maybe between (at least) 6 and 10 more Rafale (F4), for Greece :

the need to acquire at least an additional 8-10 new fighters has been expressed with the aim of forming another Fighter Squadron.
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defencereview.gr

Σε προχωρημένο επίπεδο η απόκτηση επιπλέον μαχητικών Rafale για τη Πολεμική Αεροπορία - Defence Review

Σε προχωρημένο επίπεδο βρίσκονται οι συζητήσεις μεταξύ της Πολεμικής Αεροπορίας και της Γαλλικής Dassault Aviation με αντικείμενο την απόκτηση νέων Rafale (διαμόρφωσης F4). Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες του DefenceReview.gr, τις επόμενες βδομάδες αναμένεται να έρθουν στην Αθήνα στελέχη της γαλλικής...
defencereview.gr

New purchase of French Rafale fighters of at least six more is in the works.
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www.ieidiseis.gr

Στα σκαριά η αγορά 6 ακόμη μαχητικών Rafale - Απευθείας συνεννοήσεις Μητσοτάκη και Μακρόν

Νέα προμήθεια μαχητικών αεροσκαφών Rafale προετοιμάζει το Μέγαρο Μαξίμου. Όλο το παρασκήνιο. Νέα αγορά Γαλλικών μαχητικών Rafale τουλάχιστον άλλων έξι βρίσκεται στα σκαριά. Όπως και οι προηγούμενες δυο αγορές γίνονται με απευθείας συνεννόηση μεταξύ Κυριάκου Μητσοτάκη και Εμανουέλ Μακρόν οι...
www.ieidiseis.gr www.ieidiseis.gr

As usual, to be confirmed.
 
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As first reported by the Greek portal Defence Review on May 10, 2024, the talks between the Greek authorities and the French manufacturer Dassault Aviation have progressed to an advanced stage. Discussions are focused on acquiring up to 10 fighters built to the upcoming F4 standard. Executives from Dassault are expected to visit Athens in the coming weeks for negotiations.

“The Hellenic Air Force General Staff has expressed the need to acquire 8 to 10 additional new aircraft to form another fighter squadron,” Defence Review reported. “Furthermore, he explicitly and categorically stated to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense that this is a fundamental condition for the withdrawal of Mirage 2000-5s to cover operational needs.”
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1789979812901109831
View: https://x.com/FHAeromedia/status/1789979812901109831
 
With this backlog and the annual delivery rate that Rafale has, I think the French Airforce is going to be desperate for new airframes even with the new 42 aircraft order. They're even talking about transfering M2000s to Ukr, I reckon this can't go on for long.
 
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Well the target was 180 AdA Rafales by 2030, to get a 225 Rafale force including the CdG Rafale M (47, last time I checked).
For some obscure reasons the target has been split to 137 by 2030 and the 180 by 2035. The 55 Mirage 2000D and 30 Mirage 2000-5F will have to endure longer. As such, none will be send to Ukraine, only Greek or UAE or Abu Dhabi Mirages.
The 2000-5F are too old and too few. The 2000D are specialized bombers. Better for UKR to have multirole F-16s.

omnirole-rafale.com

RAFALE : Livraisons et coûts - RAFALE : The omnirole fighter

Point de situation sur les livraisons et coûts des Rafale.
omnirole-rafale.com omnirole-rafale.com
 
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Archibald said:
Well the target was 180 AdA Rafales by 2030, to get a 225 Rafale force including the CdG Rafale M (47, last time I checked).
For some obscure reasons the target has been split to 137 by 2030 and the 180 by 2035. The 55 Mirage 2000D and 30 Mirage 2000-5F will have to endure longer.
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My understanding is the target is now 185 AdA Rafales by 2035, and 40 navy Rafale Ms.

The latest order of 42 Rafales will bring the AdA fleet to 137 by 2030 and ~160 Rafales by 2032. The Mirage 2000-5F replacement is included in this number.

That leaves about ~50 Mirage 2000Ds, to be replaced by 25-30 Rafale F5s around 2033-35 to reach the 185 target.
 
Will the Rafale F5 be a special adapted variant or just more modern Rafale's with upated software/engines and perhaps better sturdier hard points to carry a heavier weapons load like what the Mirage 2000D can curently carry?
 
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Will the Rafale F5 be a special adapted variant or just more modern Rafale's with upated software/engines and perhaps better sturdier hard points to carry a heavier weapons load like what the Mirage 2000D can curently carry?
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What load is the 2000D carrying that the Rafale would not be able to?
 
Last time we heard about this, it was not.

One of the problem of the Rafale config, IMOHO, is that it´s completely dead locked for any major upgrade. Increase in thrust needs more airflow and the close coupled ensemble of the Cannard, wing LE, fuselage contour and inlet make it a hard nut to crack amid the daily routine of a constantly evolving program.
The Mirage architecture was more compliant for radical changes (see Mirage to Kfir or Delta to VG).
 
TomcatViP said:
Last time we heard about this, it was not.

One of the problem of the Rafale config, IMOHO, is that it´s completely dead locked for any major upgrade. Increase in thrust needs more airflow and the close coupled ensemble of the Cannard, wing LE, fuselage contour and inlet make it a hard nut to crack amid the daily routine of a constantly evolving program.
The Mirage architecture was more compliant for radical changes (see Mirage to Kfir or Delta to VG).
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I had heard weight and balance was a huge issue. Now that I think about it the Gripen and J-10 needed substantial redesign to accommodate bigger engines, more so the Gripen. Is this just an inherent difficulty with close coupled canards?
 
F-2 said:
Is this Engine upgrade happening ? I keep hearing whispers of it for F5 standard but I have yet to find a real source
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As said before, the current structure can accept a power increase of up to 8.3 T (instead of 7.5 T) without modification. 16.6 T is still better than 15 T. But, for the moment, officially, nothing has ever been announced for the implementation of this development.
 
As far as I understand it, at least it was told in the past, the feont air intake section can be replaced. The canards have nothing to do with it.

Enlarged inlets were proposed in conjunction with the M88-3. Priority was eventually given to a decrease in SFC and durability and maintainability improvements. In the future the primary requirement most likely is sqeezing out more electrical power for new/upgraded equipment and possibly more bleed air for cooling.
 

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