Boeing Starliner

[Archibald]

Confirming somewhat that the public affair dimension has outsized the technical aspects:

Exclusive | Boeing execs fought NASA in heated arguments about stranded astronauts flying home in leaky Starliner: ‘Wildly irresponsible’

“What’s the headline if there’s a catastrophic failure? It’s not ‘Boeing killed two astronauts,’ it’s ‘NASA killed two astronauts,” one NASA ex…

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"Normalization of Deviance" -Diane Vaughan, about STS-51L launch decision.
"By God Thiokol, when do you want me to launch - in April ?"
Glad NASA did not budged.

 

[aim9xray]

This time.

 

[TomcatViP]

Unfair. An assumption of failure such as this, at this stage, only tricks the debate.
I think we should have this conversation once Dreamliner has returned (or not).

 

[Michel Van]

Unfair. An assumption of failure such as this, at this stage, only tricks the debate.
I think we should have this conversation once Dreamliner has returned (or not).

let us first see how Starliner makes it return or crash into new Mexico.
then we can discuss further...

 

[NMaude]

let us first see how Starliner makes it return or crash into new Mexico.

Or to put it another way, if the Starliner CM lands in one piece or pieces.

 

[publiusr]

Please, Great Cthulhu—I’ll sacrifice as many as you want—but please have Starliner crash atop a 737 Max—-

 

[TomcatViP]

"Normalization of Deviance" -Diane Vaughan, about STS-51L launch decision.
"By God Thiokol, when do you want me to launch - in April ?"

On my reading list. Thanks!

 

[Michel Van]

new issue with Starliner:
It start to make strange sound

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830180273130242223

View: https://twitter.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223

 

[Flyaway]

new issue with Starliner:
It start to make strange sound

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830180273130242223

View: https://twitter.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223

It sounds like an episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.

 

[Archibald]

I hope it won't self destroy with no warning. 10, 9, 8...

 

[TomcatViP]

Poor aliens that have scheduled Starliner as their Trojan horse for an invasion.

View: https://youtu.be/UYWSMe_97i0?t=74

 

[Justo Miranda]

new issue with Starliner:
It start to make strange sound

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830180273130242223

View: https://twitter.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223

If the ship does not rotate, it will get too hot on one side and too cold on the other, generating noises like those of the hull of a submarine when changing depth.

In the Apollo years engineers already knew these things.

 

[Dilandu]

new issue with Starliner:
It start to make strange sound

If I understood it right, the sounds were emanating from Starliner's speakers?

 

[Archibald]

Maybe she is talking, 2010 style ? "Atempt no landing..."

 

[aim9xray]

If I understood it right, the sounds were emanating from Starliner's speakers?

The sound of millions of Boeing shareholders, as if they cried out all at once at the future Starliner program writeoffs (losses).

 

[sienar]

If I understood it right, the sounds were emanating from Starliner's speakers?

Its a sonar ping like noise coming from the speakers

 

[aim9xray]

"Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please."

 

[Justo Miranda]

"Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please."

One ping

 

[Flyaway]

It’s haunted by the ghosts of Boeing engineers past despairing at the modern company.

 

[Forest Green]

It all started to go downhill after Emunclaw.

 

[Justo Miranda]

It’s haunted by the ghosts of Boeing engineers past despairing at the modern company.

The guys who won the war with the B-17 and B-29?

 

[Archibald]

The sound of millions of Boeing shareholders, as if they cried out all at once at the future Starliner program writeoffs (losses).

I felt a great disturbance at Boeing, as if billions of shareholders dollars suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly lost.

Somebody at NASAspaceflight found that the sound... sounds like Dark Vador breath. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61434.msg2620804#msg2620804

Now I have this vision of Starliner telekinesically strangling the ISS crew, saying "I found your lack of faith in me, disturbing."

 

[Justo Miranda]

I felt a great disturbance at Boeing, as if billions of shareholders dollars suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly lost.

Somebody at NASAspaceflight found that the sound... sounds like Dark Vador breath. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61434.msg2620804#msg2620804

Now I have this vision of Starliner telekinesically strangling the ISS crew, saying "I found your lack of faith in me, disturbing."

Hi

 

[zebedee]

Poor aliens that have scheduled Starliner as their Trojan horse for an invasion.

View: https://youtu.be/UYWSMe_97i0?t=74

Off topic: There is an interesting story behind the icons on that control panel...

Simon Deerings Auto-destruct Panel

Zeb

 

[Dilandu]

Its a sonar ping like noise coming from the speakers

Either some kind of speaker malfunction, or maybe the ISS is tracked by surface radar, and speakers due to some weird accident reacted (my PC speakers tended to produce weird sound if a mobile phone ringed, while nearby)

 

[NMaude]

It’s haunted by the ghosts of Boeing engineers past despairing at the modern company.

Led by Joe Sutter.

 

[Byeman]

If the ship does not rotate, it will get too hot on one side and too cold on the other, generating noises like those of the hull of a submarine when changing depth.

In the Apollo years engineers already knew these things.

And they know it too

 

[archipeppe]

 

[Justo Miranda]

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Starliner???

 

[publiusr]

Sounds like mini-me hitting it with a wrench.

I told him not to play in the doghouse

 

[aim9xray]

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Just listened to the comms recording via Ars. Dammed if it doesn't sound like Jonesy's sped up caterpillar drive recording.

Could that be Boeing's secret plan to get Stayliner back on the ground? Better watch out for the cook!

 

[The K2]

My father (who was a longtime Boeing engineer) has said the same thing. Nobody in his division liked the purchase.

Neither did my dad. He was an engineer at Rockwell.

 

[publiusr]

Well, had Starliner been a Gerry Anderson production, they could’ve just slid down the strings…

 

[NMaude]

Well, had Starliner been a Gerry Anderson production, they could’ve just slid down the strings…

Starliner is go!.

 

[The K2]

This video reminded me of SpaceX’s Starship:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=460519248593968

View: https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=460519248593968&vanity=GerryAndersonOfficial

 

[Richard N]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830291736545120540

View: https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1830291736545120540

 

[4decaa]

 

[aim9xray]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1830291736545120540

View: https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1830291736545120540

Hmmm. Two signs Butch might be a cylon

- Starts wearing a gods-dammned eyepatch
- Responds to Mission Control with "Houston, this is Starliner Calypso actual..."

WAITAMINUTE...Battlestarliner Calypso
Tagline: "Fleeing from Boeing engineering, they are a crew on a lonely quest...for a soft landing on a shining planet known as Earth."

 

[martinbayer]

If I understood it right, the sounds were emanating from Starliner's speakers?

They're heeere...

 

[Justo Miranda]

Starliner is go!.

The comparison would be unfair, the rescue vehicles worked well, but the ones that were poorly designed were the ones that had to be rescued.



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