Boeing Starliner

You know... Saddest thing is that ISS has to unite mankind but... Even life support systems of flight space suits are incompatible between Souyz, Dragon and Starliner.

XKCD was right. Again...

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NASA response:

“A pulsing sound from a speaker in Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft heard by NASA astronaut Butch Wilmore aboard the International Space Station has stopped. The feedback from the speaker was the result of an audio configuration between the space station and Starliner. The space station audio system is complex, allowing multiple spacecraft and modules to be interconnected, and it is common to experience noise and feedback. The crew is asked to contact mission control when they hear sounds originating in the comm system. The speaker feedback Wilmore reported has no technical impact to the crew, Starliner, or station operations, including Starliner’s uncrewed undocking from the station no earlier than Friday, Sept. 6.”
 
Flyaway said:
NASA response:

“A pulsing sound from a speaker in Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft heard by NASA astronaut Butch Wilmore aboard the International Space Station has stopped. The feedback from the speaker was the result of an audio configuration between the space station and Starliner. The space station audio system is complex, allowing multiple spacecraft and modules to be interconnected, and it is common to experience noise and feedback. The crew is asked to contact mission control when they hear sounds originating in the comm system. The speaker feedback Wilmore reported has no technical impact to the crew, Starliner, or station operations, including Starliner’s uncrewed undocking from the station no earlier than Friday, Sept. 6.”
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In other words, a crappy Twenty First Century electronic design. Maybe go back to last Millennium Apollo technology? If NASA is indeed focused on 'improving' electronics these days, they lost sight of their original mission goals and need to concentrate on boots on extraterrestrial grounds.
 
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martinbayer said:
In other words, a crappy Twenty First Century electronic design. Maybe go back to last Millennium Apollo technology? If NASA is indeed focused on 'improving' electronics these days, they lost sight of their original mission goals and need to concentrate on boots on extraterrestrial grounds.
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The initial objectives of its mission were fulfilled in 1969, then the money and advertising ran out. The hero factory had to fire a lot of smart people and set about making wireless microphones for Mick Jagger and all sorts of folk nonsense.

For some reason the agency continued to exist and has achieved some scientific successes at an exorbitant price, but its astronauts are no longer heroes and the conquest of space is of no interest to anyone.
 
martinbayer said:
In other words, a crappy Twenty First Century electronic design. Maybe go back to last Millennium Apollo technology? If NASA is indeed focused on 'improving' electronics these days, they lost sight of their original mission goals and need to concentrate on boots on extraterrestrial grounds.
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No. It is trying to connect systems from more than 6 countries and a dozen contractors.
 
Notice no Boeing reps on the call.

Link for NASA press conference:

View: https://youtu.be/U7_lH5kg8Yo


Ahead of Starliner’s return, NASA will host a pre-departure news conference at 12 p.m. EDT on Wednesday, Sept. 4, from the agency’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

Participants include:
Steve Stich, manager, Commercial Crew Program, NASA Kennedy Space Center
Dana Weigel, manager, International Space Station, NASA Johnson Space Center
Anthony Vareha, flight director, International Space Station

NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams launched aboard Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft on June 5 for its first crewed flight, arriving at the space station on June 6. As Starliner approached the orbiting laboratory, NASA and Boeing identified helium leaks and experienced issues with the spacecraft reaction control thrusters. For the safety of the astronauts, NASA announced on Aug. 24 that Starliner will return to Earth from the station without a crew. Wilmore and Williams will remain aboard the station and return home in February 2025 aboard the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft with two other crew members assigned to NASA’s SpaceX Crew-9 mission.
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Justo Miranda said:
The guys who won the war with the B-17 and B-29?
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And the guys who designed the B-52, the KC135, the 707, the 727, the 737, the 747, and even the 757/767 twins. Maybe the 777.


siegecrossbow said:
So if the starliner returns to Earth all of them will start haunting the shareholders Jacob Marley style?
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Not the shareholders that need to be haunted, it's the C-levels.


Byeman said:
No. It is trying to connect systems from more than 6 countries and a dozen contractors.
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If you can't do that without causing interference, go back to electrical engineering school.
 
In my opinion there is a possibility that a failure in the thrusters will cause a collision with the ISS, perhaps compressed air could be used during separation and wait until the thing was at a safe distance before activating the thrusters.
 
Justo Miranda said:
In my opinion there is a possibility that a failure in the thrusters will cause a collision with the ISS, perhaps compressed air could be used during separation and wait until the thing was at a safe distance before activating the thrusters.
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I gained absolutely no knowledge of how the capsule will separate from the station or achieve correct reentry orientation. None.

Note to NASA: I suggest the two stranded astronauts suit up and push the capsule. Use a sextant for reentry alignment.
 
Justo Miranda said:
In my opinion there is a possibility that a failure in the thrusters will cause a collision with the ISS, perhaps compressed air could be used during separation and wait until the thing was at a safe distance before activating the thrusters.
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There is little data to support that opinion.
 
This article states that springs will push the Starliner away from the ISS before thrusters take over:

Starliner Ready to Come Home

Posted: September 4, 2024 10:32 pm ET | Last Updated: September 4, 2024 10:32 pm ET | Boeing's Starliner Crew Flight Test capsule is ready to come home on September 6, 2024. The capsule will be empty because NASA is concerned about the Reaction Control System thrusters, five of which...
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