Boeing JAST / JSF / X-32 /PWSC F-32 projects

[Stargazer]

Thanks for all the great pics! No matter what angle you look at it, the "F-32" sure would have been an ugly SOAB!!

 

[InvisibleDefender]

She was pretty to those of us that were close to her ... and the PWSC was better!

 

[Stargazer]

What is it you call the PWSC? A full-scale mockup?

 

[InvisibleDefender]

What is it you call the PWSC? A full-scale mockup?

Preferred Weapons System Concept - i.e., their final proposed design

 

[Colonial-Marine]

In the revised form she didn't look too bad if you could get beyond the giant chin intake. Though I suppose old A-7 pilots would have no problem with that.

 

[InvisibleDefender]

In the revised form she didn't look too bad if you could get beyond the giant chin intake. Though I suppose old A-7 pilots would have no problem with that.

ABSOUTLEY! (I took this photo at Andrews AFB back in 2001)

 

[LowObservable]

When I saw the STOVL PWSC mockup at Farnborough, I honestly thought for a moment that they had sawed off the wingtips to fit the shelter.

 

[Sundog]

What are the open doors next to the nose gear for? Did they use those instead of a translating cowl for more flow at low speed on the redesigns? Is it where the RAT was located?

 

[flateric]

doors are for pitch nozzles

 

[Sundog]

doors are for pitch nozzles

Interesting. They were probably using bleed air from the fan, maybe even hoping to use them to create a curtain of air to help prevent hot gas re-ingestion?

 

[donnage99]

Weapon bay's load out on mock up:
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Miscdet.html

 

[InvisibleDefender]

What are the open doors next to the nose gear for? Did they use those instead of a translating cowl for more flow at low speed on the redesigns? Is it where the RAT was located?

Here's a visual for you of how the STOVL propuslion system looked on the X-32B and what it would have looked like if there had been an F-32B.

 

[SpudmanWP]

The X-32 must have been 'hit with an ugly stick.' -SP

It fell out of the Ugly Tree and hit every branch on the way down, some twice

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

A recent donation to the Museum had this Boeing JSF/X-32 card in it.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[AAAdrone]

You know, those photos of the F-32 don't look so bad regardless of that chin-intake. The original X-32 design was about the ugliest thing I've seen though.

 

[Triton]

Boeing X-32 model by Pacmin found on eBay.

URL:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Boeing-F35-Concept-Prototype-solid-stand-model-Pacmin-/140648784998?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item20bf522466

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Boeing ASTOVL concept circa 1993.

Source:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Boeing-Airplanes-Press-Photo-/200769420195?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2ebeca3ba3

 

[LowObservable]

Interesting. Must have been right after they gave up the wingtip-mounted fins.

 

[fightingirish]

Wow, never seen before... B)

Early Boeing design study for a CALF demonstrator meeting conventional and STOVL requirements
Image courtesy JSF Program Office, 2010

Source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/jsf/pics02.shtml


Edit: It is also on Matej's website. Should visit it more often! :

 

[fightingirish]

Evolution of the Boeing design for JAST culminating in the X-32
Image courtesy JSF Program Office, 2010

Source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/jsf/pics06.shtml

 

[Stargazer]

Wow, never seen before... B)

It's elsewhere on this forum, and not something thought of very highly if I remember correctly...
A not-very-realistic design probably published by a so-called "science" magazine.

 

[flateric]

it was pure artist's what-if from MRF article published Polish Lotnictwo magazine #23-23/1992

 

[InvisibleDefender]

I don't recall having ever seen that before. Wasn't a JAST design.

Wow, never seen before... B)

It's elsewhere on this forum, and not something thought of very highly if I remember correctly...
A not-very-realistic design probably published by a so-called "science" magazine.

 

[InvisibleDefender]

Just curious ... who in the program office gave that to you in 2010?

Evolution of the Boeing design for JAST culminating in the X-32
Image courtesy JSF Program Office, 2010

Source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/jsf/pics06.shtml

 

[cluttonfred]

Sorry if this has already been posted and I just can't find it, but does anyone have any artwork or photos of models or mockups of the Pelikan tail iteration of the Boeing JSF? Cheers, Matthew

 

[flateric]

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2121.msg18031.html#msg18031

 

[cluttonfred]

Much obliged, though I think I like the simplicity of the straight delta wing version better.

 

[Vulcan652]

I must be one of the few people that actually quite likes the look of the X-32. Ugly? For sure! But there's something quite individual about it in my opinion. Here's a few walk-around pics taken a couple of years ago at Patuxent River. They don't do justice to how chunky it was up close, or the fact that it's suffered a bit out in the humidity. Still, a cool little museum and well worth a visit!

 

[Gavin]

I must be one of the few people that actually quite likes the look of the X-32.

One of the few, no doubt. But you're not alone.

 

[flateric]

I still love it. And PWSC too. Not so plain boring outside as X-35 was.

 

[piko1]

i love this plane too better looking and interesting then the F-35
now only to find correct one in 1/72 ;D

 

[The Artist]

it was pure artist's what-if from MRF article published Polish Lotnictwo magazine #23-23/1992

Revell or Airfix Draken fuselage between wings from an off scale B-58, F-18 horizontals, and that odd little tail-end part from a Testors Stealth Fighter kit - though, I can't remember if it's the U.S. one or the Soviet one. Not a 'What-if' as much as a 'well, this one looks cool, lets go with it' illustration.

 

[kcran567]

I must be one of the few people that actually quite likes the look of the X-32. Ugly? For sure! But there's something quite individual about it in my opinion. Here's a few walk-around pics taken a couple of years ago at Patuxent River. They don't do justice to how chunky it was up close, or the fact that it's suffered a bit out in the humidity. Still, a cool little museum and well worth a visit!

I like the x-32 as well. The lifting body shape, along with the thick yet highly swept wing. Was cool looking to me. The x-35 became the lightning II, the x-32 if produced should have been the Sabre II. To me the production version looked like the F-86 Sabre.


There is a youtube video walkaround at patuxent of both the x-32 and x-35.
http://youtu.be/OLPiCTfRA-o


http://youtu.be/1BZGgvhqs5g

 

[Stargazer]

The x-35 became the lightning II, the x-32 if produced should have been the Sabre II.

Is this a personal opinion, or actual info? And if so, do you have any source to circumstanciate it?

 

[Evil Flower]

I always thought it looked much more like a stealthy A-7. One of these days I'll have to build a model of that PWSC design. Does anyone know why the chin intake is swept back on the PWSC when it was raked forward on the X-32?

 

[InvisibleDefender]

The x-35 became the lightning II, the x-32 if produced should have been the Sabre II.

Is this a personal opinion, or actual info? And if so, do you have any source to circumstanciate it?

Pure speculation. I knew a lot of the names which were contenders for the F-35. One of them was the Musketeer. As in the Three Musketeers since we have 3 versions.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Hmm.. maybe it should have been Dogtanian?

[European cultural reference - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogtanian_and_the_Three_Muskehounds]

 

[Dsadow]

Here's something, In 1998 Boeing worked on the next evolution of their design, the 988-372.4. This looks like they took the -372 delta and added a four poster tail while not changing the trailing edge sweep and an aft slanting intake like the -373.
Has anybody seen a 3-view of the -372.4 or know where I could find one?
Thanks

 

[Stargazer]

I knew a lot of the names which were contenders for the F-35. One of them was the Musketeer. As in the Three Musketeers since we have 3 versions.

This I can confirm, as I did find once a PowerPoint presentation once that had the name "Musketeer" associated to the F-35.

 

[flateric]

This I can confirm, as I did find once a PowerPoint presentation once that had the name "Musketeer" associated to the F-35.

http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Joint-strike-fighter-Presentation.pdf