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  1. Sanglune

    Nevesbu's projects

    Hello, I'm looking for warships designed by Nevesbu (B.V. Nederlandse Verenigde Scheepsbouw Bureaus). Specifically for surface vessels, though I don't want to discourage discussion around their submersibles. So far I'm aware of a couple of designs: Project 1047 (files attached, source: Klaas...
  2. Grey Havoc

    Waffenträger Wiesel 1 development

    One of Porsche KG's (from 1972 onwards Porsche AG) interesting Cold War military projects. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRb3o5OJsHo
  3. uk 75

    NATO Minuteman

    After the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 the US replaced its land based medium range ballistic missiles in Europe. While the Minuteman ICBM was the main national deterrent system, the role of countering Russian missiles aimed at Western Europe was taken on by Polaris (later Poseidon) submarines...
  4. A

    RCA Astra-1 - the (mostly unknown) CF-105 Arrow radar

    I checked, no thread for this one. It was developed by RCA between early 1956 and september 1958 when it was canned. Before and after these dates, ( sigh...) the prefered option was the MX-1179 / MA-1. While the Sparrow II missile is well known, Astra 1 remains kind of mystery. It has been...
  5. A

    Zumwalt "borrows" (and adapts) European carrier designs...

    ... instead of re-inventing the wheel in the 70's. The idea is to blend together, Zumwalt "cheaper decks" (SCS / VSS / CVV) and the too few carrier designs from Europe. To bolster NATO fleets on one side, and the USN on the other - more flattops on both sides of the Atlantic. That is...
  6. P

    Late 1960's USN Fletcher-class 'Harrier Carrier' concept

    Here's a really interesting account I found on Project Terminated, by Ronnie Serrano: '... a couple drawings were done by Pierre Mion for the U.S Navy in the late-1960s which shows using converted Fletcher-class destroyers into makeshift "Harrier Carriers". The plan at the time is to convert...
  7. Grey Havoc

    Next-Generation Rotorcraft Capability (NGRC)

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/11/20/five-european-allies-sign-on-to-build-natos-next-medium-lift-helicopter/
  8. A Tentative Fleet Plan

    Evolutionary National Tank

    View: https://youtu.be/RvlfWqCcMdk Essentially a British equivalent to the American Block III MBT, and Soviet Object 477.
  9. uk 75

    Canada buys the A-4 Skyhawk

    Did Canada ever consider the A4 Skyhawk for its carrier aviation and Norway reinforcement role (instead of F5)? Would have been able to operate with USN/USMC.
  10. A

    Eureka ! a naval Northrop N-156

    We discussed at nauseum alternatives to the F-8 Crusader from 1956, 1968, 1975. One we missed was this very one. I had forgotten one of the early N-156 was to be a naval fighter. The USN wanted it for the smallest carriers of WWII vintage that had not been downrated to secondary or tertiary...
  11. uk 75

    Boardgamegeek or every game you remember

    Back in 1973 I purchased the boardgame "NATO operational combat in the 1970s" from Jim Dunnigan's SPI (Simulation Publications) gaming company. In a world before home computing this wargame of a future war as opposed to Waterloo or DDay was something new and daring. In this month of lockdown you...
  12. uk 75

    Royal Navy Cold War Minelayers

    More or less unnoticed in the mid 60s the Royal Navy was able to replace the wartime very fast Minelayer "Manxman" with a new build ship. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Abdiel_(N21) Abdiel served nearly to the end of the Cold War in1988. Unlike the famous UK mine countermeasures vessels...
  13. uk 75

    Trigat missile family

    Back in the Cold War the France, Germsny and the UK embarked on an ambitious programne to produce a family of third generation anti tank missiles. The only survivor is the long range helicopter launched version https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARS_3_LR. Like the SP70 gun and RS80 (described in...
  14. uk 75

    Replacing the British Army rifle

    I noticed a Teddy Bear in Guards Uniform carrying an M16 (like the Canadian Army) and it got me wondering about the saga of the SA80 and what we are going to replace it with. I get the impression that of the rifles introduced from the 1970s on only the French Army got one they liked. But even...
  15. uk 75

    NATO LPH based on USS Iwo Jima

    The US Navy's Iwo Jima class helicopter carriers were the closest the US came to a Harrier carrier when one was used as an interim Sea Control Ship. The US Marines went on to operate its Harriers from Tarawa and Wasp class ships. But the compact Iwo Jimas might have been a quick and dirty...
  16. uk 75

    Lance versus Blue Water

    I should know the answer to this. When does Lance first emerge as a likely replacement for Honest John and Sergeant and even Corporal, given its range. I only ask because Lance does seem to make Blue Water pretty pointless as it has better range and more mobile with its M548 based launcher...
  17. uk 75

    The Hound Dog for NATO

    This one is not really feasible but it does produce some interesting models or artwork. The USAF had its Hound Dogs in service from the Cuban Missile Crisis well into the 70s. If politics and other considerations had not got in the way, permutations of NATO Hound might have served on the...
  18. CJGibson

    Strategic Air Command in the UK - Robert S. Hopkins III

    Robert's latest book has gone to print and should be available, alongside the man himself, on the Crecy Publishing stand at IPMS Telford on 9th November 2019. Strategic Air Command in the UK Throughout its 46-year history, Strategic Air Command (SAC) was inextricably linked to the United...
  19. uk 75

    NATO nuclear missiles in Europe

    I had always been puzzled by who in NATO apart from the US received nuclear missiles. The UK received Corporal (range about 75miles) while Belgium, France, Germany, Italy as well as UK got Honest John(12 miles or so) It then gets interesting. The UK comes up with Blue Water (range 50-60 miles)...
  20. uk 75

    Replacing SACEUR's RAF Valiants

    From 1963 to 1965 three squadrons of Valiant B1s at RAF Marham were assigned to NATO to deliver US supplied nuclear weapons to targets chosen by Supreme Allied Command Europe. They replaced Canberras in the same role. This always seemed to me a more essential role for 50 TSR2s or F111Ks than...
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