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  1. R

    WI more Canberra's replaced by Valiants?

    In 1960 some 64 Canberra B2 & B6 in 4 sqns based in Britain and assigned to SACEUR were replaced by 24 Valiants in 3 sqns. Despite the significant decrease in numbers this was considered a net benefit because of the Valiant's all weather capabilities. By 1964 the RAF still had 9 sqns of Canberra...
  2. B

    Armstrong Whitworth AWP.15 NATO Maritime Patrol Aircraft

    Anybody know anything about this?
  3. N

    RUR-5 ASROC and RUM-139 VL-ASROC (VLA)

    A few days ago I stumbled across this ASROC training video from Periscope Films and I was surprised when I checked the board that no specific thread for the ASROC has been posted so hear goes: Now for some stats from the RUR-5 ASROC wikipedia page: Detonation of W44 warhead launched by an...
  4. uk 75

    If you were Sandys or Mcnamara?

    As we have had some interesting 50s and 60s what-ifs I thought it would be fun to go for a big one. Put yourself in the chair of Sandys, McNamara or any other key Defence Minister of your choice. Now put together a better balance of options than they did.
  5. R

    British 'virtuous circle' 1957 onwards?

    There have been several discussions about the British aircraft of the 60s since I started here a few weeks ago, apparently it's a never ending topic. They appear to start out technically and end financially and politically in a viscous circle of failure. In the process some interesting and...
  6. flateric

    NATO AGARD / DRG -> RTO -> STO aircraft studies

    https://www.japcc.org/articles/leveraging-the-alliances-effort-in-fighter-aircraft-design/
  7. uk 75

    Could NATO Frigate 90 have been made to work?

    Perhaps the most ambitious NATO programme of the 1980s was an attempt to design a common escort ship platform for NATO navies: NATO Frigate 90. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/nfr-90-and-other-pre-horizon-aaw-projects.923/ The project foundered as it became too expensive and failed to...
  8. uk 75

    NATO Cobras

    The US Huey Cobra was a formidable gunship helicopter. Unlike the later Apache which has found widespread use.with NATO, the Cobra did not get much NATO use. West Germany should have been a major user. TOW equipped Cobras would have added much to Bundeswehr units. Instead the Boelkow B105...
  9. C

    5.56×45mm NATO Conversion Kit for MG 42/59 (?)

    According to McNab (2012), the Stabilimento Militare Armi Leggere Terni or SMALT had produced a conversion kit to adapt the MG 42/59 GPMG (Italy's license-produced version of the MG 42 / MG 3) to 5.56×45mm NATO ammunition (p. 25). Uncited entries on Wikipedia claimed that the conversion kit...
  10. Voltzz

    Low Cost Anti-submarine Weapon (LCAW)

    LCAW was a NATO program for an small torpedo, cheap/expendable enough to be use against unidentified/unverified sonar contacts. It was supposed to have both rocket-launched and helicopter-dropped version. At first it was a trilateral US, German Norwegian project, but some point ~1990 The US...
  11. TomS

    PXM -- A modern subchaser for the USN

    A few months ago, I posted a thread on a briefing with several more or less obscure frigate concepts for the USN. One of the designs included in that brief is the PXM, which I described at the time as a rabbit hole. This thread is my attempt to chase that rabbit as far as I can go, starting from...
  12. T

    AH-64 Apache Orders, Sales & Incidents

    This is great. I'm not a fan of the Eurocopter Tiger, and I wished that Germany had picked the Apache or Cobra.
  13. Graham1973

    Numbers Stations

    A YouTube series covering 'Numbers Stations' quasi-mysterious shortwave stations, which are widely suspected to be used by various intelligence agencies to contact agents in the field. This series is covering the stations one at a time. When they were more common (In the 1970 - 2000s) time...
  14. Hood

    1987 Netherlands LST

    In 1987 the Royal Netherlands Navy began studying an 8,000 ton LST for the 1993-97 construction programme which would have the capacity to carry 600 Marines. This pre-dates the LSD effort which began in 1990 which resulted in the Rotterdam-class. These have a capacity for 600 troops but offer...
  15. C

    French dominance

    This was idea I had reading the merage IV threads, the idea being the the lockheed bribery scandal breaks in Germany befor the deal goes though leading to anything American becoming politically toxic, this leads to Germany (and though them the rest of the nato f-104 block) to buy the Mirage III...
  16. Voltzz

    MBB Anti-Armour Projects

    I just found a very interesting picture on wikipedia, and i dont know where else to post it. All information i have for now is from wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt. i found it on the LRAC F1 article so maybe it was an alternative proposal for that program. In the image the rocket...
  17. TomS

    Rolling Airframe Missile launcher concepts

    Thread for unbuilt RAM launcher concepts (aside from the standard Mk 49 and SeaRAM launchers) This morning, I reminded myself of an unusual concept to mount Rolling Airframe Missile launchers on the sides of a Mark 45 gun turret. The idea was to use the gun drives and gun fire control to point...
  18. S

    Tom Clancy’s Red Storm Rising animated chapters by FIXEDIT

    These are well worth a look. I wonder what FIXEDIT could do with a bigger budget! View: https://youtu.be/VVjdFBZCRQc View: https://youtu.be/zo8FhChnyq0 View: https://youtu.be/rTov2oSXR8M View: https://youtu.be/4irbMNQc8As
  19. Grey Havoc

    Lambda Automata 'Outpost' autonomous surveillance tower system

    ORIGINAL CAPTION: "Outpost" uses artificial intelligence for geo-locating, classifying and tracking a wide-range of threats, according to manufacturer Lambda Automata. (Lambda Automata photo)...
  20. uk 75

    NATO point defence ship systems

    As the Soviet Union developed its wide range of air and ship launched anti-ship missiles NATO surface vessels needed weapons to counter them. Approaches adopted by individual NATO navies varied widely. Italy deployed 76mm guns and the Aspide system (based on US Sea Sparrow). Netherlands...
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