WS-202A, LRI-X (F-108 Competitors)

[Steve Pace]

thanks for details and color scheme. Will be 3D printed

I cannot wait to see your finished artwork! -SP

 

[Steve Pace]

Here's the uncropped pages - odd that it was from Boeing-Wichita instead of Boeing-Seattle? -SP

 

[Steve Pace]

page 2

 

[hesham]

Hi,

has anyone a drawing to Vought V-391 ?.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Republic AP-75.

Альтернативные легкие истребители Republic F-109 Thunderdart. США - Альтернативная История

Альтернативные легкие истребители Republic F-109 Thunderdart. США - Альтернативная История

alternathistory.com

AP-75 had all moving wing tip same as XF-103.

 

[dslick]

Drawings of Northrop LRI proposals by Ed Jackson (https://www.artbyedo.com/). The N-144 would have been substantially larger than a B-58.

 

[Archibald]

Beautiful designs, really.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Northrop N-126 model.
https://plane-encyclopedia.com/cold-war/northrops-early-lri-contenders/

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Northrop N-144.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Northrop N-149.

 

[archipeppe]

Arigato' blackkite-San.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Hi! Northrop N-149.

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/drawndoc.htm

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg32.jpg

 

[Orionblamblam]

Hi! Northrop N-144.

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/drawndoc.htm

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg32.jpg

 

[Orionblamblam]

Hi! Northrop N-126 model.
https://plane-encyclopedia.com/cold-war/northrops-early-lri-contenders/

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/drawndoc.htm

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/airdwg5.jpg

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

McDonnell Aircraft Model 111A

A copy of the 3-view drawing and the McAir report No. 3815, dated 1 November 1954, on the proposed McDonnell Aircraft Model 111A Long Range...

aviationarchives.blogspot.com

63 page PDF.

McDonnell proposed Models 109, 110 and 111 as Long-range Interceptor designs. 109 was apparently similar to the F-101 Voodoo. It appears Model 111 was submitted after the competition finished - the proposal seems to have been a lower cost, lower risk alternative to the F-108, with a lesser performing aircraft compensated for by a high performance missile. The McDonnell Model 103E nuclear-tipped air-to-air missile was part of the proposal - see post here

American Secret Projects: Fighters and Interceptors 1945 - 1978 has additional details of these designs.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Good Day all -

I spent a day last week with Gerry Balzer and scanned some 8x10 negatives which are quickly deteriorating - so that not snow or bubbles you see on the scans!

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[acegeek9992]

Does anyone have any models/images available for the Vought V-391 and V-394?

 

[seruriermarshal]

Does anyone have any models/images available for the Vought V-391 and V-394?

I can't find any Vought V-391 or V-394 pics in web . : (

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Sum total of knowledge to date is from a Vought project list:

V-391 - Long range fighter for the USAF, 1954
V-394 - Heavy long range fighter for the USAF, 1954

According to Tony Buttler no trace of either has been found in the Vought archives. We surmise they are most likely LRI-X designs, but no official submission was made to the requirement by Vought.

Personal speculation: the designs might have been conceptual descendants of the V-371 layout. This design is largely missing from the archive.

 

[seruriermarshal]

Sum total of knowledge to date is from a Vought project list:

V-391 - Long range fighter for the USAF, 1954
V-394 - Heavy long range fighter for the USAF, 1954

According to Tony Buttler no trace of either has been found in the Vought archives. We surmise they are most likely LRI-X designs, but no official submission was made to the requirement by Vought.

Personal speculation: the designs might have been conceptual descendants of the V-371 layout. This design is largely missing from the archive.

I send a mail to Vought Heritage Foundation , and they ask me " who is inquiring and what is the intended use?"

 

[seruriermarshal]

And any pics of Grumman G-107 ?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

And any pics of Grumman G-107 ?

Yes, on page 102 of American Secret Projects: Fighters & Interceptors 1945-1978

 

[seruriermarshal]

And any pics of Grumman G-107 ?

Yes, on page 102 of American Secret Projects: Fighters & Interceptors 1945-1978

Sir , May you send a pic of it ?

 

[sferrin]

Evan, if I lived near you I'd volunteer to clean up your files. I'm sure lots of interesting items live in them!

*gentle chuckle* I'm absolute sure of that, I know some of the stuff in there. Even what I can find is interesting, I just need to scan a few things for here and elsewhere. Good thing I've got a holiday weekend coming up.

Did this ever happen?

 

[acegeek9992]

Sum total of knowledge to date is from a Vought project list:

V-391 - Long range fighter for the USAF, 1954
V-394 - Heavy long range fighter for the USAF, 1954

According to Tony Buttler no trace of either has been found in the Vought archives. We surmise they are most likely LRI-X designs, but no official submission was made to the requirement by Vought.

Personal speculation: the designs might have been conceptual descendants of the V-371 layout. This design is largely missing from the archive.

I send a mail to Vought Heritage Foundation , and they ask me " who is inquiring and what is the intended use?"

Hope you can persuade the Vought Heritage Foundation to let you access images of the V-391 and V-394 at some point!

 

[Bill S]

I send a mail to Vought Heritage Foundation , and they ask me " who is inquiring and what is the intended use?"

Pretty standard reply, as they have very limited resources.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


the Convair submitted a fighter version of XB-58 Hustler,as mention in Air Pictorial
1955 magazine.

To confirm that,Convair was in,

Northrop’s Early LRI Contenders

Born from the Long Range Interceptor program, the first of Northrop’s contenders were three aircraft that had large delta wings and overall similar shapes and designs. The first, the N-126, started…

plane-encyclopedia.com

 

[hesham]

To confirm that,Convair was in,

Northrop’s Early LRI Contenders

Born from the Long Range Interceptor program, the first of Northrop’s contenders were three aircraft that had large delta wings and overall similar shapes and designs. The first, the N-126, started…

plane-encyclopedia.com

As I guess,it was B-58D,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/convair-b-58-projects.4471/

 

[Mark Nankivil]

A nice inboard profile with cross sections and a simple 3 view of the Northrop N-167 courtesy of the Gerald Balzer Collection.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Another gift from Gerry Balzer's Collection, N-126B Inboard Profile. Unable to read the date of the drawing.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Scott Kenny]

The idea that some of these "fighter" designs were bigger than a B-58 must have absolutely boggled some minds!