WS-202A, LRI-X (F-108 Competitors)

[CammNut]

Does anyone know anything about this Douglas design? This is scanned from an article on windtunnel models in the latest Air & Space magazine. The caption says it is the Douglas Model 1355 "supersonic long-range interceptor" and dates from the mid-1950s.

 

[elmayerle]

final:
North American Model NA-236(the winner of competition)----late,then Model NA-257/XF-108
Northrop Model N-167.

I'll have to disagree here. According to a former co-worker at Northrop (he retired after 55 years there), Northrop's design was the loser at the semi-final phase and the final competition was between NAA and Lockheed. Supposedly Northrop got this news while they were doing a final round of testing in Cal Tech's wind tunnel.

 

[Pioneer]

Ihave forgotten Vought Model V-391 & Model V-394(LRI-X, different time

Sorry Devi, but you have mentioned the Vought V-391 & V-394, but attached 3 drawings of North American Aviation designs?

Do you have drawings of the Vought designs ?????

Regards
Pioneer

 

[Skybolt]

No... ;D

 

[martinletts]

Gentlemen.

I am looking for any further info (drawings mainly) on the Northrop N-144 (I have Tony Buttler's book American Secret Projects) This may well be enough to work with (I am starting a new visualisation project and it's the USAF's turn) but any more info is always helpful.

Cheers.

Martin

 

[Abraham Gubler]

http://www.up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocair.htm

 

[martinletts]

Thank you for that link.

Can't think how I missed that on a trawl of the web! These are about the best set of drawings I've seen for a long while. Solid gold, well worth £3.50.

Cheers.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Can't think how I missed that on a trawl of the web! These are about the best set of drawings I've seen for a long while. Solid gold, well worth £3.50.

Tell all your friends.

More specifically, tell all your friends who have money...

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

merged topics

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Here is the complete list of WS-202A contenders via Tony Buttler:

 

[circle-5]

Many thanks to Tony Buttler for this awesome document, and to Overscan for posting it (may I still call you Overscan?)

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Certainly

 

[circle-5]

Douglas Model 1355 proposal display model for the USAF WS-202A long range interceptor design competition. Made in late 1954 by the Douglas in-house model shop at the Santa Monica, California plant.

Low ground clearance is noteworthy.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Stunning - thanks!

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[circle-5]

From the long-range interceptor competition came some spectacular designs: powerful, heavy, fast and deadly. Reunited for the first time since 1955, a trio of WS-202A factory proposal models from North American Aviation (front), Douglas (center) and Lockheed (rear).

In case you're wondering, the Lockheed model is a CL-288 -- not a CL-320 -- about halfway between the F-104 and the A-12.

 

[Stargazer]

the Lockheed model is a CL-288 -- not a CL-320 -- about halfway between the F-104 and the A-12.

Looks a bit like a kitbash between a Starfighter and a Canberra... Awesome pic and models, thanks for sharing!

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Hey, that's not a bad idea! Thanks man!

 

[circle-5]

More Douglas 1355 -- an American greeting card for uninvited Socialist "visitors".

 

[shockonlip]

As always circle-5, NICE!

 

[circle-5]

Lockheed CL-288 factory proposal model, presented at the USAF WS-202A long range interceptor competition. Made by the Lockheed model shop in Burbank, around 1954-55. Advanced Projects lettering was removed at some point, but remains visible at certain angles.

This elegant design bears the unmistakable hand of Lockheed's then-chief engineer, Kelly Johnson.

 

[Bazinga]

Found this in my picture archive. I think it is the N-168

 

[Stargazer]

This elegant design bears the unmistakable hand of Lockheed's then-chief engineer, Kelly Johnson.

It does. A true beauty indeed, definitely in the family of Suntan and Starfighter.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Found this in my picture archive. I think it is the N-168

This is from Scott Lowther


http://up-ship.com/drawndoc/drawndocair.htm#airdwg32


and is the N-149. High res copies are $5.50.

 

[Bazinga]

Mhh, Still not sure about it. If I look at Overscans pictures of N-126 history the PD-2455 belongs to that series as Mod 34 of 29 July 1954. Interestingly in this picture that section is crossed out "as if it didn't belong there".
I'm new to this forum, so I'm sure others can cross match PD-dwgs to N numbers. For now I'll place this bird as a N-126.

 

[circle-5]

A couple of pages from the original USAF proposal for the Douglas Model 1355 (WS-202A), dated August, 1954.
At nearly 90-ft. long and 70,000lbs T.O. weight, the 1355 would have been an impressive LRI.

 

[Abraham Gubler]

A couple of pages from the original USAF proposal for the Douglas Model 1355 (WS-202A), dated August, 1954.
At nearly 90-ft. long and 70,000lbs T.O. weight, the 1355 would have been an impressive LRI.

Nice, looks like a high speed Skywarrior.

 

[circle-5]

Douglas Model 1355 Long Range Interceptor 1954 Wind Tunnel Model (one wingtip missing) and proposal model.

 

[Stargazer]

Thanks for these pics! Love the front view. Such an original design...

 

[circle-5]

Here's a factory model of the Republic AP-75 LRI competitor. Does anybody know what the code number means on the stand (other than 1954)? Thank you.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


the Convair submitted a fighter version of XB-58 Hustler,as mention in Air Pictorial
1955 magazine.

 

[Steve Pace]

Here's the Model 712 LRI proposal from Boeing. Enjoy! -SP

 

[Steve Pace]

I'm surprised... No comments, Gentlemen?....

 

[nugo]

Hi All!


How are you all ?


No comments...just very excellent as always !!!

 

[starviking]

I'm surprised... No comments, Gentlemen?....

I just think that's an artifact of the Holiday Season. Comments will surely flow.


Until then: nice work! Thank you!!

 

[flateric]

Here's the Model 712 LRI proposal from Boeing. Enjoy! -SP

Much of thanks, Steve!

 

[Antonio]

Mr Pace,

Obviously a great contribution about a excepcionally interesting project. Many thanks for sharing it!

...and let me add I'm terribly anxious waiting for the moment I could enjoy your next book in my desktop!

Antonio

 

[PlanesPictures]

thanks for details and color scheme. Will be 3D printed

 

[Antonio]

Mr Gatial,

I love the texture in your drawings. Which is the software you used?

 

[zhuravlik]

Steve, thanks a bunch for sharing Model 712 documents.

 

[PlanesPictures]

"I love the texture in your drawings. Which is the software you used?"

Rhinoceros