Yes I knew that. CALF and JAST were catch-alls, replace every medium-class fighter with one airframe. Not quite the same thing. Design compromises were inevitable. A larger wing and weight reduction being the necessary mitigations for the F-35C.
Then you'd also know that at least the JSF program is a bit hard to call a program in which the Navy "piggy backed" the AF.
Where is Grumman today? Where is Lockheed?
It was a rhetorical question. Grumman had the choice of going out of business or getting bought out. Lockheed never left the driver's seat.
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We knew already that airframe integration will be paramount for next Gen propulsion... And here comes the proof: GE, PW but also Boeing, LM and Northrop!
US Air Force picks five companies to prototype next-gen engines
The awards to the five firms mark a broadening of the adaptive engine market, which until now has been dominated by GE Aviation and Pratt & Whitney.
Yes that would be relevant if both companies' current state of being were down to who took Navy or USAF contracts. Grumman thrived, for decades, on Navy work while also finding time to tackle other challenges like the LEM. The implication that only fools or the desperate should take Navy contracts is silly.
Or just power and thermal management around the flight envelope and mission legs.
Great, I was already heartbroken to know that YF-23 lost out in ATF, now we have a 4/5 chance of getting depressed with AF's choice and potentially killing the most beautiful bird in favor for the other.We knew already that airframe integration will be paramount for next Gen propulsion... And here comes the proof: GE, PW but also Boeing, LM and Northrop!
US Air Force picks five companies to prototype next-gen engines
The awards to the five firms mark a broadening of the adaptive engine market, which until now has been dominated by GE Aviation and Pratt & Whitney.
Don't think too fancy: beyond actionned flows, turbo ramjets etc... This might only translate the need for distributed exhaust and active flows controls.
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It was a major misstep making this a classified program because the optics of retiring a large part of an already small air superiority force during one of the most intense periods of international relations since the end of the second world war is horrible.F-22 Raptors Are 'Killing' Next-Gen NGAD Fighter, B-21 Bomber Program, US Air Force's Top Acquisition Official Says
The US Air Force’s under-development, B-21 ‘Raider’ bomber, hypersonic weapons, and wingmen drones for its Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter will be left with fewer funds and manpower if 33 Block 20 F-22A Raptors remain in service, according to Andrew Hunter, the USAF’s top...
Oh please. 33 raptors are bankrupting the usaf? Now I've heard everything. We've printed more money for the Ukraine in the last 6 months than I dared imagine.It was a major misstep making this a classified program because the optics of retiring a large part of an already small air superiority force during one of the most intense periods of international relations since the end of the second world war is horrible.F-22 Raptors Are 'Killing' Next-Gen NGAD Fighter, B-21 Bomber Program, US Air Force's Top Acquisition Official Says
The US Air Force’s under-development, B-21 ‘Raider’ bomber, hypersonic weapons, and wingmen drones for its Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter will be left with fewer funds and manpower if 33 Block 20 F-22A Raptors remain in service, according to Andrew Hunter, the USAF’s top...
If nobody is increasing funding for the USAF it really doesn't matter how much money is spend on Ukraine. The USAF has a limited budget to work with.Oh please. 33 raptors are bankrupting the usaf? Now I've heard everything. We've printed more money for the Ukraine in the last 6 months than I dared imagine.It was a major misstep making this a classified program because the optics of retiring a large part of an already small air superiority force during one of the most intense periods of international relations since the end of the second world war is horrible.F-22 Raptors Are 'Killing' Next-Gen NGAD Fighter, B-21 Bomber Program, US Air Force's Top Acquisition Official Says
The US Air Force’s under-development, B-21 ‘Raider’ bomber, hypersonic weapons, and wingmen drones for its Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter will be left with fewer funds and manpower if 33 Block 20 F-22A Raptors remain in service, according to Andrew Hunter, the USAF’s top...
Somehow all of a sudden Augustine's Law #16 comes to mind...Oh please. 33 raptors are bankrupting the usaf? Now I've heard everything. We've printed more money for the Ukraine in the last 6 months than I dared imagine.It was a major misstep making this a classified program because the optics of retiring a large part of an already small air superiority force during one of the most intense periods of international relations since the end of the second world war is horrible.F-22 Raptors Are 'Killing' Next-Gen NGAD Fighter, B-21 Bomber Program, US Air Force's Top Acquisition Official Says
The US Air Force’s under-development, B-21 ‘Raider’ bomber, hypersonic weapons, and wingmen drones for its Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter will be left with fewer funds and manpower if 33 Block 20 F-22A Raptors remain in service, according to Andrew Hunter, the USAF’s top...
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I'd take issue with that. There are at least two theaters other than WestPac where F-22 could be a player -- note the deployment of a squadron to Europe right now and a deployment earlier this year to Saudi Arabia.
U.S. F-22s forward deploy to 32nd Tactical Air Base, Łask, Poland
Twelve U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor aircraft assigned to the 90th Fighter Squadron, Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska, forward deployed, Aug. 4, 2022 to the 32nd Tactical Air Base, Łask, Poland,www.usafe.af.mil
Why the US Air Force Is Sending F-22 Raptors to the Middle East
The Air Force Just Upped the Game in the Middle East with F-22s: The Pentagon and the White House are taking seriously the conflict between the United Arab Emirates and Iran-backed Houthi rebels and raising the stakes. In a surprise development, the Air Force is sending a squadron of F-22...
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Perhaps the point is to have overwhelming force, with deterrence being the objective. That, and the fact that the US likes to keep its options open. Not all allies will allow the US to fly particular missions from their bases.
I'd take issue with that. There are at least two theaters other than WestPac where F-22 could be a player -- note the deployment of a squadron to Europe right now and a deployment earlier this year to Saudi Arabia.
U.S. F-22s forward deploy to 32nd Tactical Air Base, Łask, Poland
Twelve U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor aircraft assigned to the 90th Fighter Squadron, Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska, forward deployed, Aug. 4, 2022 to the 32nd Tactical Air Base, Łask, Poland,www.usafe.af.mil
Why the US Air Force Is Sending F-22 Raptors to the Middle East
The Air Force Just Upped the Game in the Middle East with F-22s: The Pentagon and the White House are taking seriously the conflict between the United Arab Emirates and Iran-backed Houthi rebels and raising the stakes. In a surprise development, the Air Force is sending a squadron of F-22...
We'll agree to disagree. I don't see any reason why the plentiful F-35 force couldn't easily fill those positions; there is zero 5th gen competition in either place. In the gulf there isn't even *4th* gen competition. Both deployments strike me as more of a feel good exercise for US allies than a real military need. I feel the same way about USN carrier deployments to 5th fleet; the Gulf is a US lake ringed by allied bases including the sprawling, ever growing CentCom command center at Al Udied. Those CV deployments seem like an incredibly pointless waste of resources much bettered utilized for 7th fleet, IMO.
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There are certain attributes unique to human decision-making that cannot be replicated by mathematically-oriented algorithms and machines.U.S. Navy to Arm Carriers With 1,000 Fifth and Sixth-Generation Stealth Fighters
A new plan released by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday calls for a “family” of manned and unmanned sixth-generation aircraft.
Like knowing that nosediving a plane into the ground to cause stack overflow in the register measuring force, is not the best way to land with minimal force on a simulator.
U.S. Navy to Arm Carriers With 1,000 Fifth and Sixth-Generation Stealth Fighters
A new plan released by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday calls for a “family” of manned and unmanned sixth-generation aircraft.
Hopefully they buy enough FA-XXs for more than a token deployment like they're doing with the F-35Cs right now. They used to have two squadrons of 12 Tomcats per carrier. 24 FA-XXs, 24 F-35Cs, 4-5 E-2Ds, a dozen MQ-25s, half a dozen Growlers, and 6 choppers brings you to 76 aircraft. The carriers are designed for 90 so just fill out the remainder with combat drones. (We all know this is pie in the sky but I can dream.)
I was wondering the same thing since NGAD is undoubtably expensive but only one can dream of such numbers just thought it was an interesting article even though it seems these numbers are not likely but I'm hoping for around 350-500 NGAD systems to come to fruition i wonder what the USAF NGAD numbers look like.U.S. Navy to Arm Carriers With 1,000 Fifth and Sixth-Generation Stealth Fighters
A new plan released by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday calls for a “family” of manned and unmanned sixth-generation aircraft.
Interesting, but where is the US Navy going to get the funding for the 1000 fifth and sixth generation fighters from?
I was wondering the same thing since NGAD is undoubtably expensive but only one can dream of such numbers just thought it was an interesting article even though it seems these numbers are not likely but I'm hoping for around 350-500 NGAD systems to come to fruition i wonder what the USAF NGAD numbers look like.U.S. Navy to Arm Carriers With 1,000 Fifth and Sixth-Generation Stealth Fighters
A new plan released by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday calls for a “family” of manned and unmanned sixth-generation aircraft.
Interesting, but where is the US Navy going to get the funding for the 1000 fifth and sixth generation fighters from?
Well then we'll have to make sure we're more competent at keeping others out of our network than we've been thus far.
The Network is simply a new battle space, the possibility of losing it is much less a peril then forfeiting it entirely.
