Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-35 News thread, pictures and discussion

Intersting, dual AAM pylons (centerline) are in service:

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Not going to lie, for longer than I care to admit, I was looking for the dual AAM pylons. Was looking at the wings wondering where they were.

Then I read "centerline".

Evidently I am just as illiterate as I am blind.

Finally though, was wondering what the hang up for them was.
 
stealthflanker said:
Imagine... 6x R-37 and still space for 4x R-77-1.
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Are R73s able to launch from such a position?

It is my understanding that due to the fact that R73s launch straight off the rail, the ingestion of rocket exhaust would preclude such a load out.
 
Cannonfodder43 said:
stealthflanker said:
Imagine... 6x R-37 and still space for 4x R-77-1.
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Are R73s able to launch from such a position?

It is my understanding that due to the fact that R73s launch straight off the rail, the ingestion of rocket exhaust would preclude such a load out.
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There shouldn't be. R-27 under wing are also launched by rails, and they have much bigger engine. Plus there is auto engine control that changes thrust in order to avoid turbine stalling during launch.
 
R-37, not R-73!

6x 300km-class AAMs + 4x typical MRAAM + 2 SRAAM does put the beast in (A/A) "beast mode". Makes you wonder about that recent headline regarding the USAF achieving the longest "known" A/A missile shot. Did they really get a 160kg AMRAAM out to more than 304km or does that R-37 intercept come under the caveat and thus expose their ignorance?
 
Trident said:
R-37, not R-73!

6x 300km-class AAMs + 4x typical MRAAM + 2 SRAAM does put the beast in (A/A) "beast mode". Makes you wonder about that recent headline regarding the USAF achieving the longest "known" A/A missile shot. Did they really get a 160kg AMRAAM out to more than 304km or does that R-37 intercept come under the caveat and thus expose their ignorance?
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R-37 is catapult-launched, so again, engine stall is not an issue.
 
Cannonfodder43 said:
stealthflanker said:
Imagine... 6x R-37 and still space for 4x R-77-1.
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Are R73s able to launch from such a position?

It is my understanding that due to the fact that R73s launch straight off the rail, the ingestion of rocket exhaust would preclude such a load out.
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Oh good lord, I am rereading this in the morning. I am illiterate!!

How can I read R-37 and mentally see R-73?

No words can express my disappointment in myself...
 
Trident said:
R-37, not R-73!

6x 300km-class AAMs + 4x typical MRAAM + 2 SRAAM does put the beast in (A/A) "beast mode". Makes you wonder about that recent headline regarding the USAF achieving the longest "known" A/A missile shot. Did they really get a 160kg AMRAAM out to more than 304km or does that R-37 intercept come under the caveat and thus expose their ignorance?
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What was the weight of the latest R-37 missile again?
Are there any pictures showing it mounted on inner wing stations? My guess would be on the Airduct stations.
 
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«Острота» момента: завершается разработка новой гиперзвуковой ракеты

По оценке экспертов, боеприпас позволит бомбардировщикам Ту-22М3 и Су-34 прорывать любые современные системы ПВО
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"The test of a new small hypersonic hypersonic missile "Sharp" for bombers is due to begin next year, Izvestia reported. The new missiles will help our country to maintain its leading position in this high-tech type of weapons, with their help it is possible to launch irresistible strikes on the most protected objects, experts noted.

The new missile will be used by long-range Tu-22M3 bombers and operational-tactical Su-34, sources in the defense ministry told Izvestia. The development is carried out within the framework of experimental design work under the cipher "Sharpia" in the engineering KB "Rainbow" by A.Y. Bereznyak.

A direct air-jet engine, known as "product 71", has been developed especially for the new super-high-speed rocket. Its creation is entrusted to the Turaevsky Engineering KB Soyuz (part of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation).

On Thursday, May 20, Vladimir Putin announced that Russia has a new type of strategic weapon - a hypersonic planning unit "Avangard" with intercontinental range. The President noted that no one but Russia has such weapons, and they continue to develop.

In February of this year, the head of the Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu said that it is hypersonic complexes of various bases will be the basis of Russian non-nuclear deterrence forces. The Minister held a meeting on additional purchases of such weapons, as well as long-range precision missiles.

As previously reported by Izvestia, a long-range hypersonic missile Gremlin is being developed for Tu-22M3 bombers, the tests of which are due to be completed in 2023. The "sharpness" will have a shorter range than it has."
 
TR1 said:
Another nice pic of the dual rails:

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Might be of interest; During MAKS 2019 i asked the techs (or were they pilots? not sure) that were hanging around Su-35S about the double pylons. Wondered if they were just a prototype thing and not in service. Surprisingly they answered that that they are in service and "have been for a while". It did take a while to be spotted though. Another fun fact, when i shared this piece of information and information i got asking about R-37M (i have been waiting for that bby for so so long now) at MAKS 2019 i got banned on Paralay for "spreading misinformation". This is the forum that is regularly xenophobic and spreads absolute horsesh!t about Elon Musk/Tesla/SpaceX, but what do i know.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT; Slight correction, i did not write about the double AKU-170's on paralay, just info i got about R-37M when i asked around at MAKS. The rest is correct.
 
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flanker said:
It did take a while to be spotted though. Another fun fact, when i shared this piece of information and information i got asking about R-37M (i have been waiting for that bby for so so long now) at MAKS 2019 i got banned on Paralay for "spreading misinformation". This is the forum that is regularly xenophobic and spreads absolute horsesh!t about Elon Musk/Tesla/SpaceX, but what do i know.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Your going to love Russia defense net ;)
 
TMA1 said:
Hey they are breddy gud. Dont make fun of frens pls.
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oh well not really insulting them just wondering how much difference there is on paralayboard and that forum. just like how one admin over there happens to be admin and from New Zealand just like the admin we found here which I found amazing, what a small world. I am sure there are similarities to other forums such as AR15.com being very favorable to right wing politics and space battle forum being very favorable to left wing politics and the only way to stop users from both sides killing each other is the love of Space X.
 
Haha I know brother I like your posts. I was being silly. Btw concerning spacebattles and arfcom they be great forums but what you said is indeed true!
 
There was some ground crew that got ingured as well, they must have been close, they had burn inguries.
 
Interesting nozzle feathers there, reminds me more of those on the F-15EX then anything else.
 
So, yeah. Su-30SM-2.

As far as i heard this one have the Su-35 engine and Radar's. This might be the "prime" flanker variant especially that KNAAPO plant might switch full swing to Su-57 production. The SM-2 will compete with F-15EX in export market, both fighter in my view is nearly identical in capability. Both have phased array radars, 2 crews, compatibility with wide range of munitions and being multirole.

The advantage i see at least for now is SM-2 may have option for very long range AAM's the RVV-BD and Indian Brahmos supersonic anti ship missile.

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Talks underway about extending Su-30MKI licence production by 50 units.
 
Interesting. I wonder if they might also include some techs and "lesson learned" from SM-2. That would I think help India in their "Super Sukhoi" program.
 
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Первый зампред коллегии ВПК: новая программа вооружения изменит облик российской армии

Российская армия в ближайшие годы получит линейку перспективных беспилотных летательных аппаратов, а танк "Армата" уже получил новый боекомплект, сообщил первый заместитель председателя коллегии Военно-промышленной комиссии Андрей Ельчанинов. В интервью специальному корреспонденту "Интерфакса"...
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Следующий шаг – это ремоторизация Су-34 на этот же двигатель.

Consideration again to up-thrusting the Su-34 with 117S apparently.
 
hello yall.
i plan to combine the Su-27 threads into here and make it an ultimate Flanker Family thread (excluding the Chinese variants).
it probably won't make much of a difference as there's hardly that much Su-27 related posts. (a bit surprised there's only 2 pages)
 
Yeah it's sad. Great news about su-34 tho. Wondering if they are thinking about extra power for the new pods on the M model.
 
On December 13, 3 new fighters arrived in Lipetsk.

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And the news from December 7th. Perhaps 4 new bombers were added to the troops:

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