Boeing 787 Dreamliner

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_03_04_2013_p0-555298.xml

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_03_2012_p0-523700.xml
 
http://ex-skf.blogspot.ie/2013/03/boeing-787-lithium-ion-battery-fire.html
 
NTSB Plans April Investigative Hearing And Forum On 787 Battery (Aviation Week)

Amid mounting signs that Boeing will have to wait longer than it hoped for FAA approval to start test flights of its proposed 787 battery fix, the NTSB has announced plans to hold a forum and investigative hearing in April to review battery technology, safety and the design and certification of the aircraft’s battery system.

News of the April events emerged as the board released a densely packed interim report on its ongoing investigation of the Jan. 7 Japan Airlines 787 battery fire at Boston Logan International Airport. This incident and a subsequent inflight battery issue on an All Nippon Airways aircraft led the FAA to ground the worldwide 787 fleet.

The report does not give a specific cause for the battery failure but details the events of the Boston incident and findings from the examination of the battery. It also cites test results of related components, initial reports on the flight recorder data and a description of the 787 electrical power system certification plan.

A list of ongoing and planned investigative activities also is included.
 
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/03/boeing-787-battery-redesign/
 
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/04/04/vo-amazing-dreamliner-stunts.youtube-wonkabar007
 
Oops... :-[

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23294760#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa

cheers,
Robin.
 
Hey, Mr. Boeing... This is becoming embarrassing.

Perhaps you ought to send your engineers and execs on a visit to Europe so they can get a few tips on how a new airliner program ought to be managed? You seem to have lost the formula... ::)
 
That's a bit silly. From the AvWeek article, it definitely looks like it might have been a fire in the galley area.
 
batigol said:
That's a bit silly. From the AvWeek article, it definitely looks like it might have been a fire in the galley area.

Par for the course.
 
Stargazer2006 said:
Hey, Mr. Boeing... This is becoming embarrassing.

Perhaps you ought to send your engineers and execs on a visit to Europe so they can get a few tips on how a new airliner program ought to be managed? You seem to have lost the formula... ::)


What? To go to Suhkoi? Given the stuff-ups Airbus have had, I would be cautious about bragging. Has the A380 broken even yet?
 
Stargazer2006 said:
Hey, Mr. Boeing... This is becoming embarrassing.

Perhaps you ought to send your engineers and execs on a visit to Europe so they can get a few tips on how a new airliner program ought to be managed? You seem to have lost the formula... ::)

Let's look at one example of how France runs an airliner program. For some reason, I don't think they would like us doing the same thing.
 
batigol said:
That's a bit silly. From the AvWeek article, it definitely looks like it might have been a fire in the galley area.

Got a linky for that??

cheers,
Robin.
 
The aircraft fire is unrelated to the batteries. This will be confirmed tomorrow in a boeing press conference. Fire is strongly believed to be as a result of galley overheat - failure of coffee heater trip switch which was left on.Burnt out much of the galley and area above causing deep damage to aft bh and rudder/elevator system. Aircraft sadly a write off - unless pride of hull loss/p.r dictates repair even if economically un-viable."

Source
 
Thanks. Still not good, though...

cheers,
Robin.
 
Guy Norris has posted an image of the Ethiopian 787 on Things With Wings that shows charring at the base of the fin.
787fire.jpg

More at the link.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/10189167/Boeing-Dreamliner-investigators-order-all-airlines-to-check-emergency-beacons.html
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/10/us-boeing787-norwegian-idUSBRE99918U20131010

By the way, wasn't this topic in Aerospace?
 
Grey Havoc said:
By the way, wasn't this topic in Aerospace?

Indeed, and there it should be, if I'm not completely wrong again !
Well, some threads have a life on their own !
 
A lot of them have become electric, but some remain hydraulic because it is more powerfull.
 
sublight is back said:
Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why the flight control surfaces on the 787 are still hydraulic?

From a weight and cost point of view, hydraulics still beat electrics for precision of control at very high forces, but electrics are winning on distant transfer of energy. So, the coming trend is electrical power distribution, converted locally to hydraulic pressure whenever fine control of large forces is required.
 
"Japan Airlines says smoke seen coming from Boeing 787 battery"
Reuters
Jan. 14, 2014 9:23AM PST

Source:
http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/japan-airlines-says-smoke-seen-coming-from-boeing-787-battery

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan Airlines said it temporarily grounded one of its 787 Dreamliners on Tuesday after white smoke was spotted outside the plane, warning lights in the cockpit indicated possible faults with the main battery and charger, and one battery cell appeared to be leaking.

Boeing Co said it was "aware of the 787 issue that occurred Tuesday afternoon at Narita, which appears to have involved the venting of a single battery cell. "

The incident comes nearly a year to the day after Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways grounded their 787 fleets after two 787 batteries overheated on two different planes in less than two weeks.

Global regulators grounded the worldwide fleet on January 16, 2013. The planes remained grounded for more than three months while Boeing redesigned the battery, charger and containment system to ensure battery fires would not put the airplane at risk. The cause of the battery problems has not been determined.

On Tuesday, Japan Airlines said maintenance engineers who were in the cockpit saw white smoke from the cockpit. When they went outside the aircraft the smoke had dispersed.

On returning to the cockpit the engineers found warning lights indicating possible faults with the main battery and charger. When checking the battery they found one of the eight cells to be active with a liquid coming out.

The plane, due to depart from Tokyo Narita airport for Bangkok, was taken out of service and the 158 passengers due to board the plane were put aboard a separate 787, JAL said.
 
Published on Jun 19, 2014

The Boeing 787-9 test team conducts crosswind testing. See how these test engineers and pilots prepare and conduct this important flight test.

http://youtu.be/vI5kFV4ltE8
 
Boeing 787-9 -- not bad for a plastic airplane.

http://youtu.be/GZRKm6PG918
 
Published on Jul 14, 2014

Join Guy Norris as he explains the salient features of Boeing's new 787-9, a stretch version of the 787-8.

http://youtu.be/byvYioApgDQ
 
Published on Jul 14, 2014

The 787-9 Dreamliner took to the skies with a powerful, yet quiet, performance in front of Farnborough Airshow attendees as it closed out the day's flying demonstrations.

http://youtu.be/9oXc08rBy2g
 
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201408050050

Battery problems plaguing Boeing's B787 Dreamliner may be tied to extreme cold

August 05, 2014


By RYUJI KUDO/ Staff Writer



A draft report compiled by the government's Japan Transport Safety Board concludes that the smoldering batteries on an All Nippon Airways Co.'s B787 airliner during a flight last year were most likely caused by the deterioration of cells from the bitter cold.

The incident occurred on Jan. 16, 2013, when one of the batteries on a B787 operated by ANA began smoldering in mid-air above Shikoku island.

The aircraft, en route from Yamaguchi-Ube Airport, Yamaguchi Prefecture, to Tokyo's Haneda Airport, was forced to make an emergency landing at Takamatsu Airport in Kagawa Prefecture.

The U.S. aircraft manufacturing giant Boeing Co.'s newest airliner, also dubbed the Dreamliner, has been involved in a series of battery-related problems.

The innovative B787 is the world's first airliner to extensively utilize lithium-ion batteries. Two such batteries produced by GS Yuasa Corp., an electronics manufacturer based in Kyoto, are installed in each aircraft.

But according to aviation sources, the liquid electrolytes in these batteries were found to deteriorate at lower temperatures, resulting in reduced conductivity.

The extreme coldness of the winter air also causes a phenomenon known as lithium plating, in which the metallic lithium dissolved in the battery's electrolyte is deposited on the surface of the electrodes. This can lead to a disastrous connection of the anodes and cathodes through a continuous metallic path that bypasses the wall separating the two electrodes, causing a short circuit.

The draft pointed out how the inconsistency in the voltage when recharging the batteries contributed to the abrupt deterioration of the batteries as well.

The board plans to conclude that the "smoking was not the result of a singular stimulant, but a combination of multiple causes," in the final report, which is planned for release after September.

A Japan Airlines Co. B787 also experienced problems in January 2013 when its batteries caught fire at Boston's Logan International Airport.

Investigations held by the board in collaboration with the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board concluded that a phenomenon known as thermal runaway, in which short-circuiting batteries become too hot to control, had occurred in both the ANA and JAL cases.

Following the two incidents, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and the Japanese transport ministry ordered carriers operating the airliners to ground all B787s. The Dreamliners were unable to fly for about three months.

Although Boeing issued measures to prevent further battery-related problems following the incidents, batteries on another JAL B787 were found to be giving off smoke while preparing for takeoff at Tokyo's Narita Airport in January 2014.


By RYUJI KUDO/ Staff Writer​
 

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