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  1. helmutkohl

    What if, France never left the Eurofighter consortium

    So we know some time in the early 80s, France split with the UK, West Germany, Italy and Spain, and developed the ACX into the Rafale, and the others made the Typhoon. the disagreement stemmed from a carrier variant. What if in this scenario, France never left and somehow the five of them...
  2. uk 75

    A world without the NPT

    Back in the 1960s it was feared that by the 1970s up to 30 States would acquire nuclear weapons. The 1968 Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons is rightly regarded as having helped avoid this happening. Britain and...
  3. helmutkohl

    Whatif, Viggen sale to India was approved

    In the 70s, India worked hard to acquire the Viggen, which was ultimately blocked by the US, due to distrust of India's relations with the USSR. In the end India went with the UK-French SPACECAT Jaguar. Lets say in this alternative history, the US did not block the sale, and it went through...
  4. helmutkohl

    Alt Vietnam

    In this scenario the Vietnam War follows the same path as the Korean war, and after years of intense fighting the two sides agree to a long term cease fire (but no peace deal, like the Koreas). splitting the two countries along the 17th parallel How would this change - the aircraft composition...
  5. Z

    Alt Sweden

    So in the same vein as others....what if Sweden turned more of it's projects into reality and which would they be? The big one has to be a Swedish Nuclear Weapons program... Presumably with A36 Strike Aircraft. Would this have a ballistic missile companion? Such Nuclear production could make...
  6. helmutkohl

    What if, Grumman went with a fixed wing for the Tomcat

    One of the designs for the Tomcat replaced the swing wings with a fixed wing. Such as the 303F What if, in this alternate history.. Grumman decided to go with a fixed wing instead of a swing wing. Then the question becomes How would its performance characteristics be like with a fixed wing...
  7. uk 75

    Alt Germany post 1950

    West Germany in our timeline has since 1951 been a constant pillar in the Western Alliance and a key partner or customer for modern weapons and other secret projects. What if things had been different and other forms had occured. German unification along Austrian or Finnish lines as a member...
  8. P

    British and French Intervention in German Invasion of Poland

    I am looking for some "professional" advice on an alternate history scenario that has been running around my mind for years: Given the political will to do something immediately about Hitler's 1 Sept 1939 invasion of Poland, did the British and French military have the resources and the assets...
  9. uk 75

    Tartar/Standard: The RN's missed opportunity

    As the Tartar-derived Standard family continues to thrive https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/standard-missile-projects.7671/unread I am going to re-visit another Hobbyhorse of mine. The Dutch took close look at CF299/Seadart and dropped it in favour of Tartar/Standard for its two Tromp...
  10. uk 75

    Getting a British Phantom

    The subject which perhaps has been kicked around on this website more than any other is whether the UK could have designed and built a two seater fighter-bomber in the 1960s to replace RAF Lightnings and RN Sea Vixens and replace RAF Hunters (The RN already had Buccaneer). The Hawker P1154 was...
  11. A

    The Fleet Air Arm pivots toward Harriers and Escort cruiser - right from 1962

    As said in the tin. When you think about it, it would avoid an immense amount of suffering and money waste. Kind of - screw the Tigers - screw CVA-01 - screw Spey Phantoms do we agree all three above were expensive boondoggles ? so good riddance (sorry, that's the radical in me... !) Also...
  12. helmutkohl

    What if UK postponed the decomissioning of the Ark Royal class, would it change the outcome of the Falklands?

    the Falklands war occurred in 82 Ark Royal (or another ship of the same class?) was decommissioned in 79 What if they had opted to delay the decommissioning by a few years but then the Falkland war occurred anyways Would the Ark Royal have been sent? would it have contributed differently than...
  13. A

    Dark Moon Rising: Archibald space TL

    As said in the tin. I've worked on this huge thing since February 2008 when I joined, first, NASAspaceflight.com and AH.com. Took me a decade and 2019 to get a stronger focus and backstory. Now the POD is clearer. In August 1967 at a crucial juncture in NASA history the last Lunar Orbiter...
  14. Dilandu

    Italian Fotobomba (AH, 1945)

    This concept is from my AH project "Savioe Cross". In short - in 1943, Mussolini was a bit quicker, and managed to broker peace with Allies before the Victor Emmanuel III. Italy managed to came out of Axis more orderly, and successfully repel (with Allied help, of course), German invasion. But...
  15. uk 75

    RN disposes of battleships in 1947

    How useful would it have been if the Royal Navy had grasped the nettle in 1947 and decided to scrap its battleships? Admittedly this is much easier with the benefit of hindsight. But the lessons of the war and the success of air and submarine attacks on battleships were already well known. The...
  16. uk 75

    A different V force in the 1960s

    If the Vickers Valiants had been transfered from strike to tankers earlier could the fatigue problems have been avoided. Their strike role could have been taken on by Vulcan or Victor B1s. With the Valiants serving into the 1970s the Victors could have continued in the recce and conventional...
  17. shin_getter

    WWI doesn't happen: what happens to military technology?

    Given that WWI had a fairly random trigger, it is not particularly strange (in alt history terms) to explore the alternative. So WWI does not happen, while a steady stream of bush wars still does. What happens to military technology? When will the following things be invented and adapted...
  18. isayyo2

    Polaris tubes stay on Cruisers?

    Before Polaris was put out to sea, submarines weren't their only host platform; the USN had their Long Beach and Albany cruisers "fitted for, but not with" with eight Polaris tubes. Also, the Italian Navy and their Cruisers held provisions for Polaris tubes. Still, these plans were dashed after...
  19. Michel Van

    German VTOL Business Jet

    I need your Advice I working on Story were German history goes little different Here goes Aerospace industry in VTOL with Do-31 and EWR VJ 101 get into service. One of civilian application is a VTOL Business Jet I took the MBB HFB 320 Jet as template With Mass 9600 kg it need around...
  20. uk 75

    NATO Minuteman

    After the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 the US replaced its land based medium range ballistic missiles in Europe. While the Minuteman ICBM was the main national deterrent system, the role of countering Russian missiles aimed at Western Europe was taken on by Polaris (later Poseidon) submarines...
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