This is a rough TL sketch.
POD is October 20, 1971. http://www.ffaa.net/projects/jaguar/jaguar_fr.htm
That day, off Marseille, the Foch is flight testing Jaguar M05, that is: the navalized fifth prototype. As the aircraft is returned to the hangar for maintenance, one mechanic raise alarm...
1970s
aéronavale
alternatehistory
cold war
dassault-breguet
fleet air arm
france
french fifth republic
great britain
harrier carrier
hawker siddeley aviation ltd
marine nationale
royal navy
sea harrier
v/stol
vstol carriers
vtol
What happens if Dassault gets his hands on a jet engine that fits the Etendard and allows it to become a properly supersonic fighter?
Could this tip the balance and see them ordered instead of F8 Crusaders?
So, after my mom's fifth session of chemotherapy, things are...slightly but decisevly better, not only I got back to study for my last three exams but time to read what I like about : horror podcasts, alternate history and more. So, I browsed the net and I got inspiration from this article ...
The Royal Navy began the 1960s with two excellent classes of destroyer (County DLG).and frigate (Type 12 Leander) on order.
In 1966 the replacement of these ships with the T42 and T22 was set in hand.. In addition the T21 gp frigate was ordered to replace other frigate classes.
So not a lot of...
The English Electric Canberra became the UK's light strike bomber in both nuclear and conventional roles. It served long after it was obsolete in the face of Russian fighters and air defences.
The RAF realised this and embarked on a programme to replace Canberra in the early 1960s. As we all...
A few years ago a project was launched to fly stratospheric balloons over various mid-western US states to test wide area surveillance systems and balloon station keeping technologies. This project was directed at drug traffic interdiction, counter-terrorism, and military applications.
Its not...
Hello, heres Markus, and since I was a child I love everything about board games, video games, and aircrafts and combat games and movies.
Maybe you remember Crimson Skies? We never have had such a game setting again I guess so a friend, Bernhard and I came up with the
idea to launch a new game...
What it says in the tin basically. In OTL Britain laid down 10 Colossus class ships in 1942-43, followed by 6 larger Majestic class in 1943 and then the Centaur class in 1944, going from 18,000t to ~20,000 and then 26,000t full load in two years.
So how do you get the British designers to...
Who would it effect western tank design?
Now for those that don't know heres a thread that tanks about the T-74
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/project-101-t-74-and-rival-70s-soviet-tank-projects-object-450-480-225-226-780.8240/
But he TLDR is that the T-74 was one of the contestants...
Hello, I really like this forum so I decided to. Alternate history as a genre or subgenre, is one of my favorite things to read. Now, unfortunately, alternate history does require a lot of time, research and more which I can’t often or in deep as much as I want due to a variety of reasons :
My...
This month's 40th anniversary of the Falklands/Malvinas war does not happen because for some reason or another Argentina does not invade.
The most noticable change would have been in the Royal Navy.
HMS Invincible would have been sold, becoming HMAS Australia. HMS Hermes would have followed in...
I am feeling a bit better now. After the first days, it’s a bit better and I can have a bit of vague leisure for a few minutes a day.
So I decided to ask a What If from a different point of view.
What if the armies of these following nations were better armed and had better information...
The Harrier has become such a crucial part of the Royal Navy and Royal Navy history that I dont think we have yet risked a thread about a world in which it never entered service.
Like all early VSTOL designs the P1127 was not easy to fly..It only existed at all because of US funding and...
We have a whole bunch of threads, alt-history or not. But no full blown TL so far.
The POD: May 1972, common sense prevails: Convair Model 200 carries the day over Rockwell NAR-356. It becomes the XFV-12 interceptor for Zumwalt Sea Control Ship.
Even after that one is canned, two prototypes are...
1970s
1980s
adcom
aerospace defense command
alternatehistory
cold war
improved manned interceptor program
united states air force
united states navy
variable geometry
vfx
One of the many boardgames about the Cold War Berlin 85 featured a map of the whole city to enable you to play either the three allied brigades in West Berlin or the East German and Soviet forces.
To try and give the allies a bit more to fight with you are also given counters for West.Berlin...
One of Harold Wilson's achievements as Prime Minister was to resist President Johnson's pressure for Britain to make some visible military contribution to the Vietnam War.
Wilson had only narrowly beaten a Conservative Government in 1964. The Conservatives may well have resisted Johnson too on...
alternatehistory
british army
cold war
democratic republic of vietnam
eastern bloc
fleet air arm
great britain
north vietnamese army
republic of vietnam
royal air force
royal marines
royal navy
united states
vietnam war
Have read that some MDAP money went into the program and that the USN had expressed "a mild interest" in the type. So lets just amp that up to buying it. This will probably kill the A-6 program, though it may have been far enough long that some prototypes may have been built.. not sure about...
Margaret Thatcher's defeat to Michael Foot in Britain's 1983 general election came as no surprise to television pundits.
Rising unemployment and failure to reduce inflation despite government cuts, including to the Armed Forces had made the public fed up and willing to try a new course.
Prime...
1980s
alternatehistory
baor
british army
british army of the rhine
cold war
north atlantic treaty organisation
royal air force
royal navy
soviet union
united kingdom
united states
France had a colony in the Falklands in 1764, and referred the islands as Iles Malouines, from which the Spanish name Malvinas later derived from.
Eventually France left the islands due to pressure from Spain.
So in this scenario lets assume the following:
1. The islands remained French this...
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