Various Dornier Prototypes & Projects

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a Dornier P.247/6 in details and 3-view to P.232/3;

http://www.klassiker-der-luftfahrt.de/geschichte/flugzeuge/dornier-projekte-p-247-und-p-252/648640

 

[Vladimir]

Hi, interesting concept... source: Dornier Flugzeuge book

 

[blackkite]

Front engine circular radiator is located nose of the aircraft and rear engine radiator is located under the wing.
Also you can see ram air intakes for the engines located both engine side.
Inside of ram air intake, you can see two stage three speed machanical supercharger.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Dornier Do-317.
Wiki says that
"In June 1940, Dornier produced plans for further development of the Do 217, which would have a pressurized cabin and more powerful engines (DB 604 or Jumo 222) and would be designated the Do 317. The Do 317 was one of the proposals submitted to the RLM for the "Bomber B" project. Two versions of the Do 317 were proposed: the simplified Do 317A powered by two DB 603A engines and featuring conventional defensive armament, and the more advanced Do 317B with DB 610A/B engines, remotely aimed Fernbedienbare Drehlafette-style gun turrets, heavier bombload, and an extended wing.

Six prototypes of the Do 317A were ordered, and the first of these, the Do 317 V1, commenced its flight test program on 8 September 1943. The Do 317 V1 was very similar in appearance to the Do 217, but featured a pressurized cabin and triangular tail fins. Trials with the Do 317 V1 revealed no real performance advance over the Do 217, so it was decided to complete the remaining five prototypes without cabin pressurization equipment and employ them as Henschel Hs 293 missile launchers. In this form the prototypes were redesignated Do 217R. At this time, the Do 317B project was abandoned due to changing wartime conditions."

 

[fightingirish]

Hi,

here is a Dornier P.247/6 in details and 3-view to P.232/3;

http://www.klassiker-der-luftfahrt.de/geschichte/flugzeuge/dornier-projekte-p-247-und-p-252/648640

Larger pictures of the Dornier P.247/6 in details, a 3-view to P.232/3 and the Dornier Do P 256 from that source.
Drawings by Hans Redemann.

 

[blackkite]

Oh! Pure jet, hybrid and pure piston engine.Was there a turboprop design?

 

[Johnbr]

Dornier do-317 with bmw-802.

 

[blackkite]

Oh Dornier Do-317 with BMW802 engine!!

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Dornier P.232/3 and P.254.
Jet engine air intake had some mechanism? We can see hinge bottom of the airinteke?
Source : internet

http://coollib.com/b/282139/read

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8ydLY5QHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09l3Y8HI__4

 

[Imperialist]

Hi, I have the book Dornier 335, 435, 635 by Manfred Griehl, can anyone tell me the dimensions of the Dornier P.59 project? I can't make it out in the book

-Imperialist

 

[Justo Miranda]

Do P.59 (DB 601)
wingspan 6,80 m. length 8,38 m. height 2,2 m.

Do P.231/1 (DB 605E)
wingspan 15,0 m. length 12,90 m. height 5,0 m.

 

[Imperialist]

Do P.59 (DB 601)
wingspan 6,80 m. length 8,38 m. height 2,2 m.

Do P.231/1 (DB 605E)
wingspan 15,0 m. length 12,90 m. height 5,0 m.

Thanks a lot Justo!

 

[Justo Miranda]

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a Dornier P.1172 drawing to Do C,the translate;

The working drawing P1172 shows the appearance of the second Do C after conversion to the more powerful BMW VI engine. The machine looked like now in its appearance the airliner Do B Bal Mercury. Good to see is the hollow at the hull bottom with the dropping loads.

http://adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/Dornier_Do_C.pdf

 

[hesham]

Hi,

also a Dornier P.1204,or Do D.

http://adl-luftfahrthistorik.de/dok/Dornier_Do_D.pdf

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

http://www.albentley-drawings.com/drawings/dornier-do335-pfiel/dornier-do335-pfiel/

http://www.airpages.ru/eng/mt/do335_02.shtml

 

[hesham]

from the book; Bernard & Graefe Verlag, Vom Original Zum Modell; Dornier Do X,
here is the original projects and aircraft,which led to Dornier Do X,they are; P.1769,
P.1771,P.1780,P.1190,P.51223 and P.51335.

Hi,

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201930%2002.pdf

 

[hesham]

The Nr.2838,or Do.18.

http://www.draco-server.de/ADL/doc/Dornier_Do_18_Teil_1

 

[hesham]

From Flugzeuge Die Geschichte machten, Dornier Wal,

the drawing wrote on it,P.406-3 ?.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a Model for Dornier Schnellbomber I.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dornier-Projekt-Schnellbomber-I-1-144-Bird-Models-Resinbausatz-resin-kit-/252787018070?hash=item3adb47c956:g:abUAAOSwtfhYsbrw

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I displayed before in replies 26,74 & 97 some early Dornier X Projects or the concepts which led to it,
but there was a more,one of them was a 48 passenger giant flying boat,with 12 motors,but differs
from obvious drawings that a four engines mounted above the fuselage not the wing,I will try to
remember the source.

 

[hesham]

The Dornier P.59-04 three view.

 

[sienar]

The Dornier P.59-04 three view.

A variable incidence wing is one way to get around the problem of rear prop clearance ;D

 

[Apteryx]

The Dornier P.59-04 three view.

A variable incidence wing is one way to get around the problem of rear prop clearance ;D

Aha! I was wondering why they'd add that untried feature to an untried configuration.

 

[Apteryx]

The Dornier P.59-04 three view.

Thanks for posting. It looks as though the span and length are written under the front and side views, but the image's size makes reading them impossible. Hesham, I don't suppose you've seen a higher-res version of this drawing?

Justo Miranda supplied length, span and height earlier in this thread, but the numbers seem unrealistically small--the span given is well under that of a Bf109E, for example, and that plane was as small as a single-DB601-powered fighter could practically be designed. The P.59 had two DB601s.

 

[hesham]

I will search about that Apteryx.

 

[Apteryx]

So… I used a drawing from Dornier 335 Arrow, by Smith, Creek and Hitchcock, to estimate scale. It's an inboard profile that shows the engines. Using the dimensions of a DB601, I scaled the P.59 to 12.5 m length and 10.6 m span. This value is probably close, but the authors say nothing about the provenance of the drawing, so I may just be reverse-engineering someone else's guess.

--Ian

 

[hesham]

Nice work Apteryx.

 

[hesham]

From Avions 101,

unfortunately the picture is not completed to know what was Dornier Do.22 took
from a "P" designation ?.

 

[Jemiba]

The posfs about the Do 30 were split and merged with the Do 30 thread in the postwar projects section

 

[sgeorges4]

dornier do 335 A6(no B6 like dragon say):
http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/d/Dornier/Do%20335/Dornier%20Do%20335%20A-6%20Nachtjeager.pdf

 

[newsdeskdan]

There was a Do 335 A-6 and a Do 335 B-6. The document you link to, Baubeschreibung Nr. 1600, describes the A-6. Baubeschreibung Nr. 1603 describes the B-6.
See p69 of J Richard Smith and Eddie Creek's Dornier Do 335 book for a description of the (fairly minor) differences between the two.

 

[sgeorges4]

Was the B6 having a different wing like the B4?

 

[newsdeskdan]

Was the B6 having a different wing like the B4?

Nope.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hi

 

[sgeorges4]

it's the camera?

Yep,I have a good paint skill ;D

 

[Justo Miranda]

Samples

 

[sgeorges4]

thanks!

 

[robertino]

is there any data on the model ??

Dornier Do 218
Dornier Do 221
Dornier P.232
Dornier P.312
Dornier P.316
Dornier P.318
Dornier P.320 and Dornier P.329