US Supersonic Transport (SST) Program 1960-1971

[Skybolt]

The Hesham's picture has a resemblance with the supersonic cruise bomber model NACA tried in Langley in mid-50s. A B-70 without the cobra neck.

 

[hesham]

The Original concepts for the SCAT 4,15,16 and 17,and a modifications
for them.

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

SCAT 16 kinda looks like a proto-B1 of sorts.

Moonbat

 

[OM]

SCAT 16 kinda looks like a proto-B1 of sorts.

...Hell, SCAT-4 has "(C) 1966 Bruce Wayne Industries" written all over it!

 

[Skybolt]

SCAT 16 kinda looks like a proto-B1 of sorts.

SCAT-9, with its blended body, was more a precursor of final AMSA design.

 

[flateric]

North American
concept with canards (from AviationWeek 6/63 ) :

 

[Skybolt]

SCAT-9

 

[hesham]

Hi,

astrange VG SST projects,the first look like the North American SST,
and the other look like the SCAT-16.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19670023224_1967023224.pdf

 

[hesham]

A good report about the US SST.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19670022277_1967022277.pdf

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the NASA Model look like the Concorde.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19670022814_1967022814.pdf

 

[Skybolt]

Actually, it IS the Concorde. NASA was contracted to study the flying characteristics of the Concorde, and they found it rather good. The FAA was even more alarmed...

 

[hesham]

A strange US SST drawings from NASA;

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19670023229_1967023229.pdf

 

[hesham]

I think this Model related to SCAT 2B.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19670022813_1967022813.pdf

 

[KJ_Lesnick]

Does anybody have a picture of the L-2000's inlet?

I remember seeing in an article a picture of a model of the L-2000's inlet undergoing testing (presumably wind-tunnel).

I can't find it anywhere...


KJ Lesnick

 

[hesham]

Do someone have something on some of these (Douglas 1961, lower left GD 1959, Lockheed's left 1958 and North American SST 1964 projects - later look somewhat different from XB-70-follow-on SST project)? Others are surely known for me...

And From Flightglobal;
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1959/1959%20-%202699.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1959/1959%20-%202700.html

 

[hesham]

And, although already shown by flateric on page 1 of this thread, here
with a designation : Ths Douglas Model 2229, Mach 3 Transport :

A more info about Douglas Model-2229;
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1961/1961%20-%201743.html

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1963/1963%20-%200191.html

 

[hesham]

The Arrow-wing configurations.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710069949_1971069949.pdf

 

[OM]

...Came across this clip while searching for all things clips of the Kenny Everett Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV7K2BHNMoc&feature=channel

...Based on the way the YouTube search engine logic works, I should be able to get MOL clips by searching for Dad's Army :-\

 

[blackkite]

Many thanks OM! Really wonderful video. I want to see original tapes. KJ! How about this video?

 

[KJ_Lesnick]

I've seen the video before. I still like it, the L-2000 was one of the most beautiful elegant aircraft designs ever

 

[NERVA]

Is the mockup shown in the video still around? It would be a great addition to an aerospace museum.

 

[OM]

Is the mockup shown in the video still around? It would be a great addition to an aerospace museum.

...IIRC, both mockups were scrapped after Congress caved in to the treehuggers and killed the project.

 

[NERVA]

Is the mockup shown in the video still around? It would be a great addition to an aerospace museum.

...IIRC, both mockups were scrapped after Congress caved in to the treehuggers and killed the project.

Thanks OM. What a waste.

 

[blackstar]

Is the mockup shown in the video still around? It would be a great addition to an aerospace museum.

The Boeing mockup stayed in place for many years and the warehouse was even used as a church for awhile, with services in front of the airplane. The mockup then ended up in a Titusville, Fla scrapyard. When that closed, the forward cockpit portion ended up in the Hiller Aviation Museum near Palo Alto, CA:

http://www.hiller.org/sst.shtml

 

[Orionblamblam]

A photo of a photo of the 2707 mockup.

 

[Orionblamblam]

The mockup as of a few days back.

 

[blackkite]

Thanks a lot Scott. Really very rare pictures. It's no problem to operate this SST for LAX-Honolulu-Tokyo route.

 

[b2707300sst]

After being unable to find any clear profile art depicting the Boeing 733-790 SST, I created these new "vintage" print images from whatever I could find on the web. Enjoy~

 

[Orionblamblam]

Much improved Boeing 2707 cockpit/instrument panel photo:
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=2801

 

[circle-5]

Some model photos of the SCAT-4 derived SST from North American Aviation, ca. 1961. The SCAT-4 was engineered by Richard Whitcomb of NASA-Langley. In addition to his area rule principles, this design incorporates an engine placement that serves the same aerodynamic function as the wing afterbodies on the Convair CV-990 airliner, also a Whitcomb idea. The rear half of the fuselage is devoid of windows -- presumably to accommodate fuel tanks. A very elegant SST.

 

[b2707300sst]

Some model photos of the SCAT-4 derived SST from North American Aviation, ca. 1961. The SCAT-4 was engineered by Richard Whitcomb of NASA-Langley. In addition to his area rule principles, this design incorporates an engine placement that serves the same aerodynamic function as the wing afterbodies on the Convair CV-990 airliner, also a Whitcomb idea. The rear half of the fuselage is devoid of windows -- presumably to accommodate fuel tanks. A very elegant SST.

Excellent find Circle5~ Thanks for posting!

 

[KJ_Lesnick]

Circle-5,

That is a BEAUTIFUL model...

 

[hesham]

US SST Research

Hi,

the California Univ. MM-122 SST aircraft.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930008785_1993008785.pdf

 

[Orionblamblam]

Shazam!

More info & drawings on this design here:
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=3224

 

[Orionblamblam]

... in reasonably high resolution here:
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=3493

 

[hesham]

The Boeing Model 1080 iterations posted by Scott some time ago were some of the configurations (all under the Model 1080 blanket) proposed by the Seattle company answering the 1991 NASA RFP for a High Speed Commercial Transport (HSCT). So (like mine SCAT-derived design, answering the AST/SCAR 1972 NASA RFP) do not strictly pertain to this thread. I suggest the moderator to split the topic and reorganize it in at least two: one for the first SST program, ended in 1971, and one for subsequent efforts.

Hi,

the Boeing Model-1080-834.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19900016628_1990016628.pdf

 

[Triton]

Artist impression of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Boeing 2707-300 SST from the Abbas Ali Collection. PIA was a launch customer of the 2707-300 SST.

From the History of PIA web site:

Official Boeing Company artist's impression of a Boeing 2707-300 Super Sonic Transport (SST) aircraft in 1960s PIA livery. In 1964, PIA under the dynamic leadership of its Managing Director Malik Nur Khan reserved delivery positions for two Boeing SST aircraft and became one of launch customers for the aircraft that was expected to enter commercial service around year 1975. Construction number 89 and 93 were allocated to PIA's two Boeing 2707-300 SST aircraft. The Boeing 2707-300 was designed to carry up to 300 passengers and PIA had plans to introduce the aircraft type on long-haul non-stop flights including Karachi to London. On May 20, 1971, Boeing 2707-300 SST project was cancelled after US government stopped funding it in March 1971.

http://www.historyofpia.com/greatshots211.htm

 

[Triton]

Models of Boeing 2707-100 SST in Delta Air Lines livery.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85471972@N00/497181505

 

[Triton]

Since I live in the Seattle metropolitan area and have lived within walking distance of the Boeing Everett Assembly Plant, I think that I should mention that the SST is known as the "airplane that almost ate Seattle."

By the end of the 1960s, the Apollo project was winding down and Boeing hoped to increase sales of commercial aircraft to make up for the decrease of space-related business. Unfortunately, due to the recession in the aviation industry, Boeing went 18 months without a single new domestic airplane order. The 747 had not yet established itself in the market and had unexpectedly high startup costs and initial delivery problems.

The end of the SST program dealt another blow to Boeing. Aided by federal funds, Boeing had made major progress, but Congress "pulled the plug" on SST funding in March 1971, forcing Boeing to cancel the program.

In the Seattle area alone, the Boeing workforce was cut from 80,400 to 37,200 between early 1970 and October 1971. Thousands of former Boeing employees, finding little in the local job market, looked for work outside the region. Things looked so bleak that on April 16, 1971, real-estate agents Bob McDonald and Jim Youngren put the words, "Will the last person leaving SEATTLE -- Turn out the lights" on a billboard at S 167th Street and Pacific Highway S near Sea-Tac International Airport.

For many years, Seattle had the nickname "Jet City" because of the importance Boeing played in the economy of the Seattle metropolitan area. The region's prosperity was tied to Boeing's. The late Seattle NBA franchise was originally named Super Sonics, before being shortened to Sonics, for the SST program. Thankfully, the region's economy has diversified with Microsoft, Starbucks, Amazon and other companies.