US Army - Lockheed Martin Long Range Precision Fires (LRPF)

Josh_TN said:
The question isn't whether Ukraine wants them or not; the question is whether the US is willing to supply them or not. I suspect they are being held back due concerns about escalation and also as a card to play if there is a Russian escalation that the US considers unacceptable.
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Aside from going nuclear, I'm not sure there are any more lines left to cross.
 
Forest Green said:
Josh_TN said:
The question isn't whether Ukraine wants them or not; the question is whether the US is willing to supply them or not. I suspect they are being held back due concerns about escalation and also as a card to play if there is a Russian escalation that the US considers unacceptable.
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Aside from going nuclear, I'm not sure there are any more lines left to cross.
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An attack on a nato supply dump is about the only thing left besides nuke.

Which will have the same issue as the nukes.
 
Josh_TN said:
I suspect they are being held back due concerns about escalation and also as a card to play if there is a Russian escalation that the US considers unacceptable.
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They've got to stop self-detering, Putin is a blustering bully (And a coward) who only respects force.

On another note I won't be surprised at all if the events in Ukraine have caused the US DoD to accelerate the PrSM's LRIP manufacturing schedule.
 
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To be completely cynical, the US benefits from a protracted war that bleeds Russia white rather than a Ukrainian victory that abruptly ended hostilities - not that I think that is possible without direct NATO intervention anyway. But less cynical and more practically, the very low risk of a society ending nuclear war is still understandably something to tip toe around when there isn't any huge strategic risk from Russia at this point. The ZSU could collapse tomorrow and the Russian army would still be a non threat to NATO outside a nuclear exchange; mission accomplished. There isn't a huge incentive for the US to push back on a conventionally broken opponent that at the same time is a peer nuclear power.
 
Forest Green said:
Josh_TN said:
The question isn't whether Ukraine wants them or not; the question is whether the US is willing to supply them or not. I suspect they are being held back due concerns about escalation and also as a card to play if there is a Russian escalation that the US considers unacceptable.
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Aside from going nuclear, I'm not sure there are any more lines left to cross.
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Well...

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Josh_TN said:
The question isn't whether Ukraine wants them or not; the question is whether the US is willing to supply them or not. I suspect they are being held back due concerns about escalation and also as a card to play if there is a Russian escalation that the US considers unacceptable.
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Exactly.
 
Forest Green said:
Well even the Houthi rebels now have a missile with 200nm range. :rolleyes:

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Houthi’s New Naval Weapons Extend Their Reach 200 nm into the Gulf of Aden - Defense Update:

The Iranians and Houthis have gradually extended the range of their weapons from tens to a few hundred nautical miles. Rather than employing these weapons on board ships to extend range, they can now reach beyond 200 nm, using the new ballistic anti-ship missiles, practically blocking the...
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I'm guessing that's an Iranian toy with a new coat of paint and the tags ripped off.
 
Josh_TN said:
Forest Green said:
Well even the Houthi rebels now have a missile with 200nm range. :rolleyes:

defense-update.com

Houthi’s New Naval Weapons Extend Their Reach 200 nm into the Gulf of Aden - Defense Update:

The Iranians and Houthis have gradually extended the range of their weapons from tens to a few hundred nautical miles. Rather than employing these weapons on board ships to extend range, they can now reach beyond 200 nm, using the new ballistic anti-ship missiles, practically blocking the...
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I'm guessing that's an Iranian toy with a new coat of paint and the tags ripped off.
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Correct-a-mundo.
 
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Firepower & people: Army Chief on keys to future war (EXCLUSIVE) - Breaking Defense

The Ukraine war proves the US Army is right to focus on high-tech long-range weapons and old-school high-intensity training, Chief of Staff Gen. James McConville tells Breaking Defense.
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  • the hypersonic Dark Eagle missile, whose classified range is estimated at over 1,700 miles;
  • the Mid-Range Capability (MRC), aka Typhon, which repurposes Navy SM-6s and Tomahawks for strikes at ranges of about 1,000miles; and
  • the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM), an all-new weapon designed to fit in existing HIMARS launchers and hit targets over 300 miles away.
 
US artillery seems to have really gone from luke warm to 11 inside the last decade. Tens of thousands of GPS guidance kits and rockets of ever longer ranges combined with a blossoming portfolio of long ranged missiles out to strategic ranges. Combined with new AI enabled ISR techniques one wonders if mechanized brigades will just operate as mop up squads in any future large scale war.
 
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Lockheed making moves to increase HIMARS production to 96 per year - Breaking Defense

Lockheed’s High Mobility Artillery Rocket System and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) — as well as the the Javelin anti-tank missile system it co-produces with Raytheon — are seeing “significant” interest from foreign customers and the US military, Lockheed CEO Jim Taiclet said.
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My plan 1000 per year baby :D
 

Not by Excalibur only… European arms group Leonardo offers high-precision guided ammunition Vulcano GLR with a range of… 100 km! Is classical artillery again becoming a competitor of rocket artillery? We will try to figure out.

Vulcano has been a family of unguided and guided sub-caliber munition for 76-mm, 127-mm and 155-mm artillery systems for some time. At the Eurosatory 2022 Defense Exhibition, Leonardo presented an updated version of the ammunition.
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Army shifting $16 million from the S & T MAD-T Interceptor, Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense Technology program, cancelled in 2021 and transferring to PrSM to speed up production of the extended range ~1000 km PrSM Increment/Spiral 4 to 2026

https://insidedefense.com/insider/a...nge-precision-fires-tech-canceled-amd-project

Presuming the MAD-T interceptor replaced by the Stinger replacement, NGSRI, Next Generation Short-Ranged Interceptor, the bids from Boeing, Lockheed and Raytheon were due in last week, initial contract award plan Spring 2023.
 

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