US Army - Lockheed Martin Long Range Precision Fires (LRPF)

Forest Green said:
SM-6 is expensive given the range required for anti-shipping in this area. You could probably spam about a dozen PrSMs for the price of 1 SM-6 IB.
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PrSMs are on the order of ~500k? Because IIRC SM6s are only about 6mil.



joshjosh said:
CRS report "The U.S. Army’s Typhon Strategic Mid-Range Fires (SMRF) System" updated 3/27/2025
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We all know that the battery commander is going to be called "Papa Smurf"...
 
PrSM I think 1.1 mil; sm-6 Ib is double Ia.

Far as i know typhoon uses Ia currently, though I presume little change is needed for Ib.
 
Japan, Philippines, S. Korea and Australia (can be others) should have a few thousand anti ship missiles all that can attack through the entirety of the SCS. China’s entire navy should be at the bottom of the ocean if they move on Taiwan.
 
bobbymike said:
Japan, Philippines, S. Korea and Australia (can be others) should have a few thousand anti ship missiles all that can attack through the entirety of the SCS. China’s entire navy should be at the bottom of the ocean if they move on Taiwan.
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They need plenty of air defence to cover those AShMs too.

Army awards nearly $5B contract for Precision Strike Missiles | InsideDefense.com

The Army awarded prime contractor Lockheed Martin a $4.9 billion contract to produce more Precision Strike Missiles last week, the Pentagon announced Friday.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1906700514987024398
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Defense Updates has put out a new video about the PrSM:


The US Army has taken a major step in acquiring a crucial missile system.On March 28, 2025, the U.S. Army Contracting Command at Redstone Arsenal awarded Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control an indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity (IDIQ) contract with a ceiling value of $4.9 billion.
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This major contract kicks off with a delivery order for 400 Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 1 systems, representing a significant advancement in strengthening the U.S. Army’s long-range precision strike capabilities.
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Carolyn Orzechowski, vice president of Precision Fires Launchers and Missiles at Lockheed Martin stated,“Lockheed Martin is committed to delivering this deterrent capability in support of the Army’s vision for a lethal and resilient force. Our team remains focused on advancing the production at speed and scale, ensuring the warfighter receives this critical capability to maintain peace through strength."
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In this video, Defense Updates analyzes why PrSM is a breakthrough weapon system for the US Army?
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Chapters:
0:00 TITLE
00:11 INTRODUCTION
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01:53 SUCCESSOR OF ATACMS
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06:17 ANALYSIS
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kqcke for you said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1912777010344260018
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Interesting article from 2024 touching on the Army's slow movement to consider the Direct Support Artillery Rocket (now Direct Support Fires Technology).

The author describes DSFT as a 4.75-inch (120mm) unguided rocket. I'm surprised it isn't at least trajectory-corrected, which would not require external inputs, but this approach certainly will be cheaper and perhaps the volume is sufficient to overcome the inherent inaccuracy of unguided rockets.

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In the US Army, a struggle with math is happening, particularly in the Field Artillery. For a combat arm which demands meeting the five requirements for accurate predicted fire (target location and size, firing unit location, weapon and ammunition information, meteorological data, and...
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TomS said:
Interesting article from 2024 touching on the Army's slow movement to consider the Direct Support Artillery Rocket (now Direct Support Fires Technology).

The author describes DSFT as a 4.75-inch (120mm) unguided rocket. I'm surprised it isn't at least trajectory-corrected, which would not require external inputs, but this approach certainly will be cheaper and perhaps the volume is sufficient to overcome the inherent inaccuracy of unguided rockets.

Time to Move Beyond Cannons | Small Wars Journal

In the US Army, a struggle with math is happening, particularly in the Field Artillery. For a combat arm which demands meeting the five requirements for accurate predicted fire (target location and size, firing unit location, weapon and ammunition information, meteorological data, and...
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But didnt they first report that it is guided ? I tought it would be similiar to GMLRS-ER like a minimi version but thats then wrong. That said what range is even the goal because even volume gets inaccurated enough at some distance.
 
kqcke for you said:
But didnt they first report that it is guided ? I tought it would be similiar to GMLRS-ER like a minimi version but thats then wrong. That said what range is even the goal because even volume gets inaccurated enough at some distance.
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I can't find any reports of DSFT being guided. We speculated about guidance on another thread I can't find right now, but that was just us speculating, and possibly/likely being wrong.

The reporting I would talks about 30 rockets (per pod, probably) to 34-40km. Sounds like there might be competition between a rocket using the Anduril 4.75-inch (120mm) motor and a Lockheed 5-inch rocket based on their new JR3 Reduced Range Practice Rocket.

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US Army wants to aggressively amass cheap rockets

The Army is working on emerging requirements for cheap rockets and ways to build them at a large scale.
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Smaller Rockets To Provide Key Artillery Firepower Boost Sought By Army

Smaller artillery rockets can greatly increase the magazine depth of existing launchers and blanket large areas in destruction.
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TomS said:
I can't find any reports of DSFT being guided. We speculated about guidance on another thread I can't find right now, but that was just us speculating, and possibly/likely being wrong.
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Yeah here and you're right
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/m270-mlrs-and-m142-himars-developments.39660/page-15
TomS said:
The reporting I would talks about 30 rockets (per pod, probably) to 34-40km.
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More we see shorter rockets already achieving that range with the same form factor and with an 3D printed ALITEC fuel based motor probaly even something akin to 60km is possible (give or take warhead size.
TomS said:
Sounds like there might be competition between a rocket using the Anduril 4.75-inch (120mm) motor and a Lockheed 5-inch rocket based on their new JR3 Reduced Range Practice Rocket.
www.defensenews.com

US Army wants to aggressively amass cheap rockets

The Army is working on emerging requirements for cheap rockets and ways to build them at a large scale.
www.defensenews.com www.defensenews.com

www.twz.com

Smaller Rockets To Provide Key Artillery Firepower Boost Sought By Army

Smaller artillery rockets can greatly increase the magazine depth of existing launchers and blanket large areas in destruction.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
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Very interresting. Hopefully we see more quickly
 
TomS said:
I can't find any reports of DSFT being guided. We speculated about guidance on another thread I can't find right now, but that was just us speculating, and possibly/likely being wrong.

The reporting I would talks about 30 rockets (per pod, probably) to 34-40km. Sounds like there might be competition between a rocket using the Anduril 4.75-inch (120mm) motor and a Lockheed 5-inch rocket based on their new JR3 Reduced Range Practice Rocket.

www.defensenews.com

US Army wants to aggressively amass cheap rockets

The Army is working on emerging requirements for cheap rockets and ways to build them at a large scale.
www.defensenews.com www.defensenews.com

www.twz.com

Smaller Rockets To Provide Key Artillery Firepower Boost Sought By Army

Smaller artillery rockets can greatly increase the magazine depth of existing launchers and blanket large areas in destruction.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
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Unguided rockets would seem to be a step backwards. If the payload was guided though. . . Maybe they could use it to drop in done swarm components?
 
Hanse said:
Unguided rockets would seem to be a step backwards. If the payload was guided though. . . Maybe they could use it to drop in done swarm components?
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Does not seem to incur much advantage over just launching from jeeps and helicopters farther forward. Probably would also require a custom UAV designed for that acceleration profile. I can’t imagine the ALE drones are that robust.
 
Hanse said:
Unguided rockets would seem to be a step backwards. If the payload was guided though. . . Maybe they could use it to drop in done swarm components?
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This seems like a reversion to the use of MLRS as a "grid square eraser," whereas GMLRS became more of a "sniper" tool than an area suppression weapon.
 
TomS said:
This seems like a reversion to the use of MLRS as a "grid square eraser," whereas GMLRS became more of a "sniper" tool than an area suppression weapon.
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I would argue the better solution is just to use the original cluster munitions or an updated version there of. If the 5” rocket idea is unguided it just sounds like BM-21-Sam.
 
Josh_TN said:
I would argue the better solution is just to use the original cluster munitions or an updated version there of. If the 5” rocket idea is unguided it just sounds like BM-21-Sam.
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It basically is, but with the advantage of being podded and thus rapidly reloadable. Both Puls and Chunmoo have similar rockets, and the Israelis even have a 122mm rocket in MLRS pods already.
 
TomS said:
It basically is, but with the advantage of being podded and thus rapidly reloadable. Both Puls and Chunmoo have similar rockets, and the Israelis even have a 122mm rocket in MLRS pods already.
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Do these improve on the accuracy of the Russian ripple fire systems?
 
Josh_TN said:
Do these improve on the accuracy of the Russian ripple fire systems?
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I mean modern 122mm rockets (serbian g2000 for example) have ~1% cep of the max range (If i understand it right) which puts them at a cep of 400m. Now with the right FCS system we probaly can make even tighter shots but remember guys a Grad has less than 3m long missiles. We can co to ~4m so mutch higher payload on the same range (40km), higher range with same payload or both.
 
kqcke for you said:
I mean modern 122mm rockets (serbian g2000 for example) have ~1% cep of the max range (If i understand it right) which puts them at a cep of 400m. Now with the right FCS system we probaly can make even tighter shots but remember guys a Grad has less than 3m long missiles. We can co to ~4m so mutch higher payload on the same range (40km), higher range with same payload or both.
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Army's requirements seem to be between 120 mm mortar and 155 mm HE round for lethality at ranges exceeding current 155 mm tube artillery. There will be guided versions of this round as well. Not sure if those will be canisterized but the initial rounds will be hand loaded.
 
bring_it_on said:
Army's requirements seem to be between 120 mm mortar and 155 mm HE round for lethality at ranges exceeding current 155 mm tube artillery.
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Kay so the warhead of the G2000 seems enough? Which with fuzing is around 19kg but (only?) uses TNT with an "lethal area" of 25m (i assume 100% lethal which put its at an 625m² area. Which puts it around there i guess (if the data of the picture is right). Yes thats not the designer but it shows that most of the extra space could go to the engine for even more range. 1000055397.png
 
Forest Green said:
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Looks like at this point there are five Increments on in the pipeline (whether real or just a bullet point I have no idea).

Increment 1: Slated to replace the Army’s legacy ATACMS tactical ballistic missile, increasing range out to 500 kilometers.
Increment 2: Under development with a multimode seeker, known as the Land-Based Anti-Ship Missile (LBASM) seeker.
Increment 3: Seeks to add in enhanced lethality payloads.
Increment 4: The Army has also tapped a Lockheed Martin team and a Raytheon Technologies-Northrop Grumman team to work on competing PrSM Increment 4 designs that can fly more than 1,000 kilometers, possibly double the range of the current version.
Increment 5: A few weeks ago the service said it was looking at an Increment 5 for an autonomous launcher to hit targets beyond 1,000 kilometers.

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Pentagon marks 2 long-range tests with Army's PrSM and Army-Navy hypersonic missile - Breaking Defense

The US Army recently had 'successful' tests for both its Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon and a pair of Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 1 weapons.
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The U.S. Army has explicitly said these would not be executed in numerical order - Incr3 is the red headed step child, and it would not surprise me if the effort was shelved. But 2 I believe has already tested a seeker and 4 is a real effort with bidders, though I cannot imagine how they fill the requirement. Incr5 seems to be a lengthened 4 to take advantage of the longer pod shape an unmanned launcher would allow.
 

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