TAI TF-X / Milli Muharip Uçak MMU Kaan

Scott Kenny said:
Kinda surprised that more HMDs aren't full color...
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Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
 
Trident said:
Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
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They also have to be able to eject with it on.
 
Trident said:
Weight and HMI considerations. The pilot has to wear this thing on his head and process the information displayed during 9g turns. No use if it snaps his neck off or he is unable to discern colour-coded data because of his colour vision fading under g. MFDs on the instrument panel are a different beast, he's not going to be making break turns with his eyes inside the cockpit.
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Okay, that makes sense, but I'm not sure how much heavier a color LCD display of equal resolution is than a monochrome one.
 
Well people didnt need colour HMDs until the arrival of more net-centric sensors and data flow to the pilot. You could decide fast enough with a monochrome green image but as sensors gather more information for pilot to see (missiles, ground targets, thermal imagery, wingmans etc) colour HMDs would be more comfortable as a single colour would make the pilot prone to misunderstandings if he doesnt double check from LAD.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Okay, that makes sense, but I'm not sure how much heavier a color LCD display of equal resolution is than a monochrome one.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they go with an OLED display, they've been working on graphene OLED displays for mil applications since 2015
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Turkish defense giant develops innovative new screens

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Radonislav said:
I think non-IR vision present on demo suggests us that IRIS-300 is not only an IR MWS+FSS but also contains DayTV? Maybe I am just too fixated on non-IR vision View attachment 723960
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IMO even if there is day TV, since these displays are translucent by nature, the contrast wouldn't be very good when "seeing through" the cockpit. I think the color HMD is more for improved symbology, like the Striker II.

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Excellent demo of Forces News of Striker II in action. You can see the tracking setup is very similar to TULGAR with an IR camera behind the reporter, IR markers dotted about the cranium, and a color camera in front.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU6tewk85-Y
 
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PringleiPrick said:
IMO even if there is day TV, since these displays are translucent by nature, the contrast wouldn't be very good when "seeing through" the cockpit. I think the color HMD is more for improved symbology, like the Striker II.

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Excellent demo of Forces News of Striker II in action. You can see the tracking setup is very similar to TULGAR with an IR camera behind the reporter, IR markers dotted about the cranium, and a color camera in front.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU6tewk85-Y
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could also be for better contrast on thermal vision of IRIS-300. Black-White provides better contrast compared to green's tones
 
Scott Kenny said:
Looking down at a wing walker or similar. Remember that the F16 pilot's feet are at head level for an adult male.
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To me, at first look, it seems like as if he's sitting backwards or smth. this is what I meant by that, but it's of topic anyway.
 
pilot looks like he is leaning backwards and to the leaning to the right
while looking over his shoulder, possibly to some one on the side or slightly behind him
 
snne said:
To me, at first look, it seems like as if he's sitting backwards or smth. this is what I meant by that, but it's of topic anyway.
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helmutkohl said:
pilot looks like he is leaning backwards and to the leaning to the right
while looking over his shoulder, possibly to some one on the side or slightly behind him
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Which is consistent with looking at someone walking next to the wingtip.
 
"TUSAŞ has shared images from its wind tunnel facility, which is the largest in Turkey and the second-largest in Europe. The facility is designed to conduct wind tunnel tests for aircraft using domestic resources. Operated by TUSAŞ, it will test various aircraft developed by the company as well as products from the defense industry and other sectors, ensuring that design and test data remain within Turkey. The tunnel features three different test sections and advanced technology equipment for measurement and evaluation. It also includes a movable ground belt system for take-off and landing tests, exclusive to this facility in Turkey. Additionally, the facility will support the production, integration, and instrumentation of tested models, making significant contributions to the product development process."

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View: https://x.com/tdefenceagency/status/1780586569524523441
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfttRuW7jik
 
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supercontra said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNsgpp9zrk
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It seems the second test pilot Gökhan Bayramoğlu had his first flight with Kaan this morning

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GeekerSeeker said:
Thanks. This video also shows the elevator's pitch correction actions are much smaller as some people were wondering about this.

Also, longer video coming from clash report makes me wonder if they are/have insiders to tusaş/ssb. Interesting.

And, as a byproduct of the "new" paint, Ataturk's signature is out, Erdogan's signature is in.
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It's probably from AA/Anadolu Agency, they usually share longer footages, i.e. during the first flight they shared a 10 min. long video while all we've had from TAI was only two minutes long.
 
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