Sukhoi Su-57 / T-50 / PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II [2012-current]

[GeekerSeeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773436369353744504

View: https://x.com/qretaxyeta/status/1773436369353744504?s=20

 

[flanker]

All of these shots are fairly old, and one is of T-50-0 at Sukhoi in Moscow (static testing, so nothing to do with production) which was literally one of the earliest T-50 pictures ever.

 

[Acatomic]

The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) has patented a drone that is dropped from an aircraft and independently decides to strike.

The carrier aircraft delivers the drone to the line of combat contact on an external sling, drops it, but maintains contact with it. The UAV has an operator control function, but at the same time the drone can independently make decisions about attacking an object that matches the target characteristics.

He is helped in this by an optical system that contains:

● a camera operating in the visible wavelength range;

● or a camera operating in the infrared wavelength range;

● or a system of cameras operating in both visible and infrared wavelengths.

The drone's optical system works in conjunction with an on-board intelligent search and guidance system based on trained neural networks. When using a camera operating in the near and/or far infrared wavelength range, detection and recognition of targets is possible at any time of the day and in any meteorological conditions.

Reconnaissance information about detected targets, telemetric information about the performance and location of the drone, and video footage of the target before it is hit are transmitted to the ground control post or air command post.

The warhead of the UAV is a high-explosive charge, a high-explosive fragmentation charge, a high-explosive fragmentation incendiary charge, and a shaped charge.

At the same time, it is not clear whether the UAC actually already has ready-made samples or whether this is just a “patent of an idea.” There are no technical characteristics of the drone. Perhaps they are simply secret, or perhaps they do not exist at all yet. We are waiting for details and combat use.

Официальные публикации

new.fips.ru

 

[Willythekid]

Hi guys. I didn't know where to put this image, so I'm putting it here. Can it be?
An HD anaglyph of the Su-57.

 

[Willythekid]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1782807581661999109

View: https://twitter.com/WDequid/status/1782807581661999109
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[Avimimus]

Any thoughts on UMPB D-30SN internal stowage arrangements?

 

[stealthflanker]

Any thoughts on UMPB D-30SN internal stowage arrangements?

2 or 3 per bay i think bring total to 4-6. If the length can be reduced to 2 meters then 4-6 per bay bring total load to 8-12.

 

[Anduriel]

Any thoughts on UMPB D-30SN internal stowage arrangements?

Two per bay. I'm not sure about three. D-30 diameters obviously 30cm, and per @paralay, Su-57 bay width is 0.9m. Even if it's 1m, I'm not sure about. Maybe at different height, but it in turn raises question about bay depth.

 

[Ainen]

Two per bay. I'm not sure about three. D-30 diameters obviously 30cm, and per @paralay, Su-57 bay width is 0.9m. Even if it's 1m, I'm not sure about. Maybe at different height, but it in turn raises question about bay depth.

Assumption was that singular munition have to fit 4.2x0.42x0.42, i.e. Kh-69 size(which is already generous).
To have pairs, one of dimensions has to be halved.

There are such munitions in development in Russia, but UMPB isn't one - too big. It's more of a normal modern standoff 250-ish weapon, like Hammer. If we'll see multipositional pylons for them(2/3) - it will be it.

Maybe heavy bombers can abuse this form-factor, though.

 

[Anduriel]

There are such munitions in development in Russia, but UMPB isn't one - too big.

UPMB is not big. The only prblem is rudders, that can be made foldable.
It's a weapon that must fit into 300mm MLRS tube by design. And L : D ratio is ~10:1 judging by photos shown. This is less than eithre Kh-69 or Kh-58USHK, which can be carried by two per bay.

 

[Forest Green]

First combat loss of Su-57 (note the cage of cope) at Akhtubinsk Airbase:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799706863400800714

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799703371655320054

Ukraine says latest-generation Russian fighter jet hit for first time

Ukrainian forces have for the first time hit a latest-generation Russian Sukhoi Su-57 fighter jet at an air base inside Russia, Kyiv's GUR defence intelligence agency said on Sunday, showing satellite pictures which it said confirmed the strike. In a Telegram post, the GUR did not specify how...

www.yahoo.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE2P-1KGs9g

 

[La-Fuente Technologies]

The SU-57 just became a little more of an endangered "species"

 

[Cannonfodder43]

Will await to see what further developments occur, if the plane is repairable or not.

I expect the Russians to finally begin to act and start building something approaching a quick set up hardened shelters for aircraft.

As Michael Kofman noted, they do adapt, but typically only after getting punched on the nose.

 

[flateric]

If you going to discuss shelters, enclosures and airfields defense, create new topic and do it there.

 

[Rubick]

So they hit one of the testbeds.

 

[GTX]

So they hit one of the testbeds.

How do you come to that conclusion?

 

[Mr.T]

How do you come to that conclusion?

Akhtubinsk airfield belongs to the 929th State Flight Test Center , its a test center not a fighter base.

Su-57s are not based there but at least one prototype of the T-50 is,

 

[donnage99]

not a good look for the new defense chief.

 

[Forest Green]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799892476339122364

View: https://x.com/haltman/status/1799892476339122364

Su-57 Felon Struck Deep Inside Russia, Ukraine's Spy Agency Claims

Both Ukrainian and Russian sources say that for the first time an Su-57 Felon, Moscow's most advanced combat aircraft, was struck.

www.twz.com

Ukraine says it struck SU-57 stealth fighter deep inside Russia

The airstrip’s distance from Ukraine, as well as unofficial comments from Russia, point to the likely use of Ukrainian-made drones in the attack.

www.defensenews.com

 

[haavarla]

How do you come to that conclusion?

Difficult to assert at this point. Mind you those prototypes are still flying around. And Aktubinsk base is a test center.
The serial jets are still attached to Knaaz on-amur base near its factory.
Sure some of them are detached and operate from other airbases around Russia.

There is also the dummies. We know they made dummies out of other jets.

 

[Forest Green]

Su-57 Felon Targeted In Ukraine Strike Seen In New Higher-Resolution Satellite Images​

Su-57 Felon Targeted In Ukraine Strike Seen In New Higher-Resolution Satellite Images

Satellite images taken before and after the June 8th Ukrainian drone attack on a parked Su-57 in Russia offer new insights.

www.twz.com

 

[GTX]

Ukrainian Drones May Have Hit A Second Su-57 Stealth Fighter At Its Base In Russia

The Su-57s at the Akhtubinsk State Flight Test Center are parked out in the open.

www.forbes.com

 

[NMaude]

Defense Updates has put out a video about the potential loss of an Su-57:

The Ukrainian military has managed to damage Russia’s most advanced fighter jet.

Main Directorate of Intelligence or GUR wrote on its Telegram channel, “On June 8, 2024, a Su-57 multi-purpose fighter of the aggressor state was hit on the territory of the Akhtubinsk airfield in the Astrakhan region of the Russian Federation, located 589 kilometers (365 miles) from the line of combat,”

It added, “The pictures show that on the seventh of June the Su-57 was standing intact, and on the eighth, there were ruptures from the explosion and characteristic spots of the fire caused by the fire damage near it.”

In this video, Defense Updates reports on the first-ever combat loss of the Russian Sukhoi Su-57 Felon

#defenseupdates #ukrainerussiawar #ukrainevsrussiahttps://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ukrainevsrussia

Chapters:

00:11 INTRODUCTION

01:53 RUSSIAN CONFIRMATION

02:55 SU-57 FELON

05:18 ROLE IN UKRAINE

06:20 ANALYSIS

Whether or not the Su-57 was a prototype, pre-production or production aircraft Putin will definitely be blowing his top in private.

 

[TSARb]

"Currently, the Su-57 multi-role fighter is in production. <...> Twelve of them were built last year, and it's planned to double production this year." (c) https://t.me/gutenev_vv/1426?single

 

[TMA1]

And news came out and it seems much of the metropolis upgrades will be implemented on su-57 fighters in 2025. It's a bummer as there were blurbs saying that we might see izd30 engines on fighters made this year. I am guessing it will probably be next year though.

 

[GTX]

https://defence-blog.com/russia-expands-production-of-felon-fighter-jets/

 

[Life of Tyo]

Su-57S fly with Fresh Coating on knaaz sukhoi 90th anniversary

 

[AGS-1787]

Is this a new paint scheme or just the base coat?

 

[QuadroFX]

Su-57S fly with Fresh Coating on knaaz sukhoi 90th anniversary

Source please.

 

[stealthflanker]

Full Vid. a compilation

 

[Elysium]

So what does the 'S' variant do? From what I see, there are no second stage engines, and the weapons bay doors still have multi-centimeter gap.

 

[flateric]

S variant only exists in the head of Indonesian YouTube channel owner, just like "anniversary flight".

 

[QuadroFX]

Full Vid. a compilation

Original source:

VK.com | VK

vk.com

 

[QuadroFX]

VK.com | VK

vk.com

 

[Acatomic]

weapons bay doors still have multi-centimeter gap.

What multi-centimeter gap?

 

[Reaper]

Screen grab from the satellite picture above. Is there a painting of a Su-57 on the tarmac? There are no shadows. And what is the intent?

 

[siegecrossbow]

Screen grab from the satellite picture above. Is there a painting of a Su-57 on the tarmac? There are no shadows. And what is the intent?

To fool enemy assets into misidentifying it as a real aircraft in event of attack. If I recall correctly USAF has done the same with F-16 in the past.

 

[Elysium]

What multi-centimeter gap?

I'm eyeballing it, but that gap between the bay doors has to be at least 2-3cm (maybe more) given the size of the aircraft. I'm honestly puzzled as to why its this bad, considering the landing gear doors aren't this visible (and they have much better fit & finish on the Su-27)

 

[VTOLicious]

What multi-centimeter gap?

Not necessarily a bad thing, if intended...

 

[paralay]

This is not a through gap. Here you can see
Due to its "moderate stealth", a heavy Russian fighter is more than twice as cheap as an "average" American fighter