There is a pdf about this somewhere, but I can't find it, drats; Just want to say that NASA has good reasons to choose the desorbit option. The ISS otherwise would turn into 450 metric tons of space debris. Space is hard, space is harsh. There is no such thing as "to preserve a spaceship as an orbital museum piece".
 
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Cerainly is an interesting concept Michel Van, one to watch out for in the coming years I would think.
 
Flight Termination System installed in Booster and Starship

Launch window open November 19 at 4:00 p.m. CT. or 23:00 CET

 
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This seems to be the best thread I could find to post it in (Please move it to an appropriate thread if one exists please), from Scott Manley:


It's been a monumental couple of weeks for the US, and by extension the US space program and industry. Meanwhile satellites are launched by Japan, Russia, New Zealand and China. Australia's Gilmour Space get closer to launch and ABL Space Systems switch to the missile defence business.
 
The Space Bucket has just uploaded a video about SpaceX's IFT-6 test-flight scheduled for tomorrow:


Right now we’re just about 24 hours away from Flight Test 6 of Starship as SpaceX completes some of the final preparations and pre-launch activities. Just in the last few days, we saw the flight termination system (FTS) installed along with a full wet dress rehearsal.
Tomorrow when they launch, we’re expecting a few significant changes to the flight profile including the actual time of liftoff, heat shield alterations, an engine relight, etc.
Credit: SpaceX - / spacex https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceX
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Ready For Launch
3:29 - A Busy Flight Profile
 
I want the flight to be successful in all factors,
and I want to be excited about it, because what they are doing is indeed an exciting thing, but my defective body is being difficult today and I have no energy to have any anticipation, excitement, concern, or other feelings, about the thing.
What SpaceX are doing there is a crazy cool thing and I am happy to be living in this era to see it happening :)
even if I don't feel good enough to feel it today. (yes, it is really bothering me, guess that's why I'm telling about it)

Right now we’re just about 24 hours away from Flight Test 6 of Starship

I also very much want a 1/200 scale plastic model kit of this thing so as to put it with the 1/200 scale manned rocket model set by AMT and the 1/200 space Shuttle by Hasegawa. Of course a plastic model kit of Starship and booster will be forever frozen at whatever iteration it was patterned from, and I'm okay with that.

:D Too bad there isn't a life size Mercury Redstone replica that can be displayed beside Starship before launch to say "We've come a long way, baby."
 

Flying with Starlink​

Boom Supersonic, on the other hand, has already flown its aircraft prototype with Starlink integrated, according to company CEO Blake Scholl. Responding to Piplica’s post, Scholl said that Boom installed a Starlink mini terminal on its T-38 aircraft.

The Starlink mini terminal is unmissable in Boom's T-38 aircraft. Image credit: <a href=https://x.com/bscholl/status/1857892677519393129/photo/1 rel=nofollow noopener target=_blank data-ylk=slk:Blake Scholl/X;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas class=link >Blake Scholl/X</a>

The Starlink mini terminal is unmissable in Boom's T-38 aircraft. Image credit: Blake Scholl/X
The process of installation to testing was equally smooth for Boom, with the process being completed in 15 days. Interesting Engineering has previously reported that the T-38 is a chase aircraft that Boom uses to follow its XB-1, its supersonic test aircraft prototype.

 
I'm not a fan of the excessive number of orbital refueling flights with the proposed Starship HLS system.
I’m curious to read your thoughts here, and I have a few questions: 1) how do you define ‘excessive’? 2) What do you think should be the top (not only, but top) design criterion for spacecraft? 3) Why should the government be spending money on manned spaceflight?

My own responses would be:
1) it’s primarily dependent on the cost and flight rate of a system, not its size. Refueling isn’t feasible when you get one expensive launch per year or less, not if you want to reuse hardware. If you can fly dozens or hundreds of times per year, refueling is now practical.
2) to me the top design criterion is cost. Reliability would be second, but low cost helps by permitting many fights, and thus practical experience.
3) There is only one legitimate reason for the US government to spend billions yearly on manned spaceflight: settlement. Nothing else justifies those expenditures. Exploration for its own sake is a farce.
 
Too bad there isn't a life size Mercury Redstone replica that can be displayed beside Starship before launch to say "We've come a long way, baby.

Reminds me of a scene in "The Right Stuff." Amid the Mercury 7 are some tensions, between Boy Scout John Glenn and the other more... down-to-earth astronauts.
When Sheppard is accompanied by Glenn to his Mercury capsule, he finds a sign "no handball playing allowed inside."

He looks at Glenn...

Glenn "I did my best, Alan."

Sheppard "I have no doubt about it. Much appreciated, John."

Exact quote here --- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086197/quotes/?item=qt0377983

  • [Alan Shepard climbs into Freedom 7 to find a placard taped to the instrument panel reading "No Handball Playing In This Area". John Glenn looks in and smiles]
  • Alan Shepard: [hands placard out to Glenn] Not very funny, John.
  • John Glenn: Well, I thought it...
  • Alan Shepard: I do appreciate, John. I surely do.
  • John Glenn: [the two shake hands] Vaya con Dios, Jose.
 
:D Too bad there isn't a life size Mercury Redstone replica that can be displayed beside Starship before launch to say "We've come a long way, baby."
There is one in Kansas, at the Cosmosphere.
There may also be one in storage at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo, acquired from the Michigan Space and Science Center when it closed.
also one in Rocket garden of:
Kennedy Space Center.
U.S. rockets at the Space & Rocket Center. Huntsville, Alabama.
 
What was the reason? Any info already?
None yet, apparently something bothered mission control soon after adapted separation, since catch abort was pretty early. Likely the cause was minor - the water landing was perfect - but they decided to err toward safety.
 
Degassing.

The explosion is to be expected when the hot part of the rocket enters in contact with the cold water. Massive thermal gradient on a short time are scarcely something that a steel construction appreciate.

Still, the Banana floats seemingly unaffected in the second stage*.

*And I can't believe that I am starring at it.
 
Despite the flashy fireball right out of a Hollywood action movie blockbuster that would impress Michael Bay the Booster is still intact and floating so I wonder when SpaceX will send out a tug to tow it back to the launch-site?
Booster 13 still swim after that Fireball ?!
SpaceX mention not visit the Booster and let salvage team recover the booster
 

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