SpaceX (general discussion)

In terms of lunar dust problems, Byoung Jae Kim and others have a physics of fluids article highlighted in Tuesday's phys.org's piece on "Using a computational model to study how to land on a planet safely." As for the 44 bil'...that could have bought a pad that could launch the Chrysler Building...or a dozen eggs even. Exit, stage right...
And they still wouldn't have had a deflector/trench for this test. I don't know how many times it's already been said but, apparently, it needs to be said again: THEY ALREADY HAD A WATER COOLED BLAST PLATE IN PRODUCTION. Their 31-engine test results indicated the pad was probably good for one launch as-is. It has sweet fuck all to do with Elon purchasing Twitter.
 
Next Falcon Heavy for launch on 27 April 2023
note this mission do not reuse booster
because the rocket carry three com-satellites to GEO
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Hmm...all this when SLC-6 is going to SpaceX? Let Bezos have it Elon. Tell him CNBC's Cramer is talking it up. Ramtha channeled Larry Storch-and he said the Heckawi demand SLC-6 be a casino. Aoum!
 
View: https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/1651306898824495104


US Fish and Wildlife has made its assessment on the impacts of SpaceX's Starship launch:
-- 3.5-acre fire started south of the pad
-- 385 acres of debris on SpaceX land and Boca Chica State Park
-- concrete chunks and other objects hurled thousands of feet


View: https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/1651307092022525970


-- no debris documented on refuge fee-owned lands
-- no dead birds or wildlife reported
 
Hmm...all this when SLC-6 is going to SpaceX? Let Bezos have it Elon. Tell him CNBC's Cramer is talking it up. Ramtha channeled Larry Storch-and he said the Heckawi demand SLC-6 be a casino. Aoum!
Bezos doesn't even need the one they have at the Cape. :D Would be interesting if they started launching Starships out of SLC-6 though.
 
View: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1651638991853088768


Nelson says SpaceX has told NASA that it can repair the pad and prepare the next Starship in about 2 months. Last week’s failure is “not a big downer”.

View: https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/1651639526962471098


Bill Nelson testifying during a House subcommittee hearing, touches on the SpaceX Starship test flight: "Now understand that the explosion, that's not a big downer in the way that SpaceX does things. They are hardware rich."
 
View: https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1651451872966762497

Makes sense. Energia did something very similar in the past, courtesy of N1 experience.
 
View: https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1651451872966762497

Makes sense. Energia did something very similar in the past, courtesy of N1 experience.
Yeah, there is nothing new here.
 
Seems the FAA didn't take too kindly to Starship breaking up.
grounded indefinitely. most likely only a few months though
 
Seems the FAA didn't take too kindly to Starship breaking up.
grounded indefinitely. most likely only a few months though
Source?

(Because "Starship breaking up", "grounded indefinitely" is completely fabricated BS.)
 
Seems the FAA didn't take too kindly to Starship breaking up.
grounded indefinitely. most likely only a few months though
Source?

(Because "Starship breaking up", "grounded indefinitely" is completely fabricated BS.)

and many more.
i do not "fabricate" lies or misinformation.
however if i have made a mistake feel free to tell me.

and yes. it exploded/broke up/incinerated itself/got detroyed/etc
call it what you want quite frankly. it was the term chosen at the time
 
How come it is going to take months to finish the Starship investigation? I do not like the sound of that.
environmental hazards and concerns from what I'm hearing.
thousands of parts and pieces need to be recovered.
I cannot say for sure what the end goal is here but we will find out soon enough hopefully
 
Seems the FAA didn't take too kindly to Starship breaking up.
grounded indefinitely. most likely only a few months though
Source?

(Because "Starship breaking up", "grounded indefinitely" is completely fabricated BS.)

and many more.
i do not "fabricate" lies or misinformation.
however if i have made a mistake feel free to tell me.

and yes. it exploded/broke up/incinerated itself/got detroyed/etc
call it what you want quite frankly. it was the term chosen at the time
"pending a standard investigation" is a HELL of a lot different than "grounded indefinitely" (your claim). Most of us paying attention knew the FAA was doing an investigation- like they do with every other aerospace mishap. And Starship/Super Heavy didn't "break up". It was destroyed by the FTS- which is what the FTS is supposed to do. The rocket wasn't just tooling along and then mysteriously came apart like you implied.
 
Seems the FAA didn't take too kindly to Starship breaking up.
grounded indefinitely. most likely only a few months though
Source?

(Because "Starship breaking up", "grounded indefinitely" is completely fabricated BS.)

and many more.
i do not "fabricate" lies or misinformation.
however if i have made a mistake feel free to tell me.

and yes. it exploded/broke up/incinerated itself/got detroyed/etc
call it what you want quite frankly. it was the term chosen at the time
"pending a standard investigation" is a HELL of a lot different than "grounded indefinitely" (your claim). Most of us paying attention knew the FAA was doing an investigation- like they do with every other aerospace mishap. And Starship/Super Heavy didn't "break up". It was destroyed by the FTS- which is what the FTS is supposed to do. The rocket wasn't just tooling along and then mysteriously came apart like you implied.
Plus I doubt Space X are that bothered as they’ll need the time to repair the OLM.
 
"pending a standard investigation" is a HELL of a lot different than "grounded indefinitely" (your claim). Most of us paying attention knew the FAA was doing an investigation- like they do with every other aerospace mishap. And Starship/Super Heavy didn't "break up". It was destroyed by the FTS- which is what the FTS is supposed to do. The rocket wasn't just tooling along and then mysteriously came apart like you implied.
I agree that 'grounded indefinitely' sounds salacious. It seems technically accurate until they are finished with their report. You know bureaucrats won't give due dates.

Will SpaceX require a new license for the next launch? It's good that EM has set an expectation of two months. That may help to expedite reports, especially if NASA and the military are interested in seeing this platform progress rapidly.
 
I would not think that SpaceX would require a new licence NeilChapman, I would think that the existing licence would be okay. It all depends on the outcome of the investigation and see what it comes out with.
 
new RGV photos
This is will be new mega bay
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This here is new factory building - note the Pit.
That foundation designed to withstand the weight, force, and vibration created by industrial machine presses,
I wonder is this for a Gigapress used by TESLA ?
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So they had engines out, loss of communication at t+27, AFTS that took 40 SECONDS to activate, and loss of vectored thrust?

They were really lucky to not nuke a Texan or Mexican town.
 
So they had engines out, loss of communication at t+27, AFTS that took 40 SECONDS to activate, and loss of vectored thrust?

They were really lucky to not nuke a Texan or Mexican town.
You must have listened to a different Spaces than I did. Certainly your characterization of what was said is about as hysterical as can be. At no point was any Texan or Mexican town in danger of "being nuked". :rolleyes:
 
So they had engines out, loss of communication at t+27, AFTS that took 40 SECONDS to activate, and loss of vectored thrust?

They were really lucky to not nuke a Texan or Mexican town.
You must have listened to a different Spaces than I did. Certainly your characterization of what was said is about as hysterical as can be. At no point was any Texan or Mexican town in danger of "being nuked". :rolleyes:
I'm certainly not going to buy access to that space, and I was indeed basing myself on a wrong transcript that said that communications had been lost at t+27 with the whole vehicle, instead of just an engine, had it been the case then yes, what I said would have been accurate.
 
So they had engines out, loss of communication at t+27, AFTS that took 40 SECONDS to activate, and loss of vectored thrust?

They were really lucky to not nuke a Texan or Mexican town.
You must have listened to a different Spaces than I did. Certainly your characterization of what was said is about as hysterical as can be. At no point was any Texan or Mexican town in danger of "being nuked". :rolleyes:
I'm certainly not going to buy access to that space, and I was indeed basing myself on a wrong transcript that said that communications had been lost at t+27 with the whole vehicle, instead of just an engine, had it been the case then yes, what I said would have been accurate.
"If I hadn't been wrong, then yes, I would have been correct." Amazing.
 
Talking about Starship's flight termination system, Scott Manly has just uploaded a video about launch-rocket's FTS:


Flight termination systems are a critical part of rockets which must operate with 100% reliability, but which you never want to actually use. Generally they're designed to destroy a wayward rocket before they can pose a threat to bystanders, and there's been a long history of their use, in some cases with great urgency.
 

40 seconds longer then anticipated to activate self destruction, unclear cause of engine failure but ruling out debris. I don’t think it’s likely this rocket will fly soon. It may be in need of major redesign and certainly an extensive investigation into the cause of failure. To say nothing of the qualification process. I can’t see this meeting the 2025 date for Artemis III and I can’t predict how much it will cost to get it working right.
 

40 seconds longer then anticipated to activate self destruction, unclear cause of engine failure but ruling out debris. I don’t think it’s likely this rocket will fly soon. It may be in need of major redesign and certainly an extensive investigation into the cause of failure. To say nothing of the qualification process. I can’t see this meeting the 2025 date for Artemis III and I can’t predict how much it will cost to get it working right.
Artemis III was never going to fly in 2025 anyway... Artemis II is likely to be 2025 in the first place.

Although... I can't deny that a delayed Artemis III does bring the opportunity of an actual new moon race with china which could only be exciting and bring more funding.
 
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