curious george said:curious george said:From f/book,
app one of two prototypes,guy called it "Skerpioen"(Scorpion)
Awaiting details re time frame,samil based,etc?
2nd pic posted, sorry no additional info available as yet.
JFC Fuller said:curious george said:curious george said:From f/book,
app one of two prototypes,guy called it "Skerpioen"(Scorpion)
Awaiting details re time frame,samil based,etc?
2nd pic posted, sorry no additional info available as yet.
This vehicle is especially interesting, it looks like a serious effort to replace the SAMIL- at least in its larger forms. Has any more information emerged about it..?
kaiserbill said:I have seen something similiar on an Oryx, described as EW (Electronic Warfare). Same antenna on the one Oryx, and also a different "covered" antenna on another.
Maybe this is more at home in the SA aerospace projects thread?
TomS said:kaiserbill said:I have seen something similiar on an Oryx, described as EW (Electronic Warfare). Same antenna on the one Oryx, and also a different "covered" antenna on another.
Maybe this is more at home in the SA aerospace projects thread?
Not a great mystery; it's a standoff communications jammer.
The Aljaba 8x8 developed in 1982 by a company Kynos SA, was the predecessor of a SHE Cavallo truck. The Aljaba is used by the Spanish armed forces; and it is also used by South Africa, but called by SANDF the Cavallo. The Cavallo in South Africa is used more as a tank recovery vehicle instead of tank transportation (Kynos Aljaba 8x8 is a tank transporter). The South African Cavallo version has a number of differences from the Aljaba. The most obvious is mine protection – the cab has an armored underside, sides and front, with the sides and front having an AV of 2 and the underside 3. The Cavallo also has folding A-frame crane used in concert with the winches; it may be used only when a semi-trailer is not attached to the Cavallo, as it gets in the way of the fifth wheel. Other technical characteristics are the same, including the Deutz 19-litre V-12 turbocharged diesel and ZF semi-automatic gearbox with torque converter.
kaiserbill said:Very interesting SA Bushwar!
New prototypes which I've not seen nor heard of keep popping up.
The front and rear cab is a single unit, unlike the Buffel, as I thought from the other photo, so although obviously based on the Buffel troop compartment, it is different.
You took the pics in the late 1980's, which date these vehicles from before then.
As speculated earlier, I wonder if these are linked with the SAMIL-20 based Rhino and Bulldog vehicles in a programme to replace the Unimog based Buffel...
What is that vehicle behind it, with the multiple windows?
Did you take any other photos of these MRV vehicles you mention?
curious george said:More pics of that "rescued" proto 9mm smg.
Interesting size comparison to the std Uzi,known as a S1 in the SADF.
kaiserbill said:SA Bushwar, thanks for those.
I'd actually not given much thought about the original Valkiri system, and how exatly the reloads were handled.
I think you're right.
I also wasn't aware that a Kwevoel based on the SAMIL 20 was devised, and thought it was only the larger SAMIL 50 and 100.
sa_bushwar said:I have noticed with the high rate of fire of the Valkiri systems during Ops Modular/Hooper and Packer that artillery ammo was transported with whatever means available, namely flown in to Mavinga by the plane loads or driven in from SWA by Kwevoel 100 and 50's.
sa_bushwar said:From the former Fort Klapperkop display mentioned earlier, here is another early mine detection vehicle.