Mitsubishi X-2 ATD-X Shinshin Demonstrator

[blackkite]

Hi! Middle of April?? ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePmxLFkuO0o

 

[fightingirish]

X-2 moves one step closer towards 1st flight
The Mitsubishi X-2 stealth demonstrator has progress to Vr stage whereby the aircraft accelerated to rotation speed and the pilot pulled the nose wheel off the ground. This occurred at Nagoya Airfield on Apr. 11.

https://youtu.be/YWDyAyYIfCU
https://youtu.be/VNTu3uMBGTM

https://youtu.be/YWDyAyYIfCU
https://youtu.be/VNTu3uMBGTM

Source: http://alert5.com/2016/04/13/x-2-moves-one-step-closer-towards-1st-flight/

 

[FighterJock]

That is excellent news fightingirish. Thanks for posting the videos.

 

[blackkite]

Late in April?

 

[Deino]

Late in April?

Planned for today but cancelled due to bad weather:

http://www.the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002890215

 

[FighterJock]

Late in April?

Planned for today but cancelled due to bad weather:

http://www.the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002890215

So near, yet so far. Tomorrow perhaps?

 

[blackkite]

The first flight of the x-2 (ATD-X Shinshin) was performed in 4/22/2016 8:45, from Komaki to the Gifu air base.(Already landed after 30 minutes flight.)
http://narublo.com/naru-334

 

[seruriermarshal]

video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldw-gbPYleo

 

[blackkite]

Thanks a lot.
Friday is a good day for the party. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9A7d08Lny8

 

[Deino]

... and landing at Gifu !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqN6ZHV0rw

 

[blackkite]

One more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euxaO8-xNtA

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
30 degree hard climb at maiden flight. ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2016/04/22/shinshin-first-flight_n_9755326.html

 

[Deino]

Nice indeed ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqmtw87GJbc

 

[blackkite]

Thanks a lot. What a amazing video and a beautiful picture by chase plane!
Leading edge flap and main flap are down.

 

[fredymac]

Different viewing angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0AjLV1bUJw

 

[blackkite]

Super!! I can't see fan blades from air intake front in this video.

 

[sferrin]

Is it a prototype or an experimental vehicle?

 

[FighterJock]

Super!! I can't see fan blades from air intake front in this video.

A sign of S-shaped ducts? or something else?

 

[Moose]

Is it a prototype or an experimental vehicle?

Seems to be something of a "proof of capability/concept" vehicle to me.

 

[TomS]

Is it a prototype or an experimental vehicle?

Experimental. The ATD stood for Advanced Technology Demonstrator. It's basically an X-plane.

 

[blackkite]

Super!! I can't see fan blades from air intake front in this video.

A sign of S-shaped ducts? or something else?

Japanese wikipedia say s that.......
”Coupled with the air intake duct of the engine was bent in the complex as well as the RCS are beetles of tens of kilometers away.”

 

[Empire]

First flight.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Prototype_Japanese_stealth_fighter_makes_maiden_flight_999.html

 

[Sundog]

First flight.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Prototype_Japanese_stealth_fighter_makes_maiden_flight_999.html

I wish these stupid magazines/news agencies would stop calling it a prototype. It's not a prototype, it's a demonstrator.</rant off>

 

[FighterJock]

First flight.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Prototype_Japanese_stealth_fighter_makes_maiden_flight_999.html

I wish these stupid magazines/news agencies would stop calling it a prototype. It's not a prototype, it's a demonstrator.</rant off>

You are not the only one to be annoyed about that Sundog.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

http://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sukhoi_T-50-PAK-FA.jpg

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_X-2_Shinshin

And picture source.
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/harunakurama/c/8a104bb6871c1ce7cd3ed46a58d35704

http://www.nags-gallery.com/cgi-bin/bbs39/bbs39.cgi

 

[fredymac]

Are there any videos of the paddles engaged and deflecting thrust? I am guessing but I would assume any developmental follow on aircraft will switch to either 2D or symmetric vectoring nozzles (for stealth).

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KtA9noHP8g

 

[fredymac]

I wonder why they didn't move the paddle with the engine on? Maybe being cautious on security although you can find old stuff like this (see 1:12 mark).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fspStedQCg

 

[TomS]

You can also find lots of video of the X-31 doing paddle thrust vectoring.

 

[Bill Walker]

I wonder why they didn't move the paddle with the engine on? Maybe being cautious on security although you can find old stuff like this (see 1:12 mark).

Risk management. In any test program you start with the simple low risk items, when you are convinced those are all working you move on to more complex higher risk tasks, in a gradual build up.

 

[Flyaway]

It seems the aim is eventually to develop the F-3 fighter that will be more advanced than the F-35 due to US not allowing access to the most sensitive technologies so they will develop these themselves.

“With the F-35 programme we are not allowed access to the highest technologies that the US has,” says Doi. “Our experience can tell you that development programmes help our defence industry and can increase capabilities, knowledge, and skills.”

Japan envisages a one-year test campaign for the Mitsubishi X-2 technology demonstrator, with around 50 flights planned

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pictures-tokyo-plans-50-x-2-flights-in-coming-year-424598/

 

[sferrin]

It seems the aim is eventually to develop the F-3 fighter that will be more advanced than the F-35 due to US not allowing access to the most sensitive technologies so they will develop these themselves.

So their first time out of the gate is going to be "more advanced" than an aircraft that is the result of decades of prior real-world experience? Really?

 

[kaiserd]

It seems the aim is eventually to develop the F-3 fighter that will be more advanced than the F-35 due to US not allowing access to the most sensitive technologies so they will develop these themselves.

So their first time out of the gate is going to be "more advanced" than an aircraft that is the result of decades of prior real-world experience? Really?

Assume the main reason for a F-3 is differences in requirement versus the F35 (more emphasis on interceptor/ air defence for the F-3) and to give the Japanese industry a domestic follow on to the F-2.
Claims of superiority versus the F35 probably intended for domestic consumption and to help justify the considerable extra development costs versus a larger F35 buy.

 

[Sundog]

Japan is buying the F-35. The F-35 is not the F-22. Japan wants the F-22. Japan cannot have the F-22. Japan is developing the F-3.

Is the F-3 more "advanced" than either of those other two airplanes? Who the hell knows, how are you defining "advanced", and it is optimized to their requirements for A2A that the neither the F-22 or F-35 meet; That last part is basic airplane configuration work, regardless of the technology employed.

 

[blackkite]

Do you have any information for F-22 reproduction?
I believe JASDF still hope to get F-22. ;D
F-3 developmet needs very big money.

 

[Flyaway]

Japan is buying the F-35. The F-35 is not the F-22. Japan wants the F-22. Japan cannot have the F-22. Japan is developing the F-3.

Is the F-3 more "advanced" than either of those other two airplanes? Who the hell knows, how are you defining "advanced", and it is optimized to their requirements for A2A that the neither the F-22 or F-35 meet; That last part is basic airplane configuration work, regardless of the technology employed.

If USAF & politicians want to re-start the F-22 production they should offer it to the Japanese as well so the whole huge re-start cost doesn't all fall on Joe public in the US.

 

[datafuser]

http://aviationweek.com/defense/mhi-x-2-fighter-technology-demonstrator-makes-first-flight

" Japan’s fighter-technology demonstrator has flown, taking off from Nagoya Airport on April 22 for a 26-min. journey in a clear sky. Much less clear is exactly where the aircraft’s technology will go, and what type of fighter force Japan will have in coming decades. "

 

[blackkite]

Hi landing video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epikt-95wes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-B0BV7XLk

 

[flateric]

Anybody knows if structural tests were carried using X-2 flight airframe, or a second one was built for this purpose?