Greece could transfer up to 32 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, according to Greek media, as Kyiv waits frustratedly for the first of the Western-made jets to arrive in the coming weeks.
 

Turkiye's F-16 Viper Modernisation to be Divided by Two​

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Turkiye’s F-16 Modernisation programme with the U.S. is currently on the discussion table. Two institutions will share the workload to upgrade 79 F-16 jet to Block 70 level. Turkiye holds two separate modernisation programmes for F-16 fleet. Turkish indigenous modernisation programme Özgür will be carried out at Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) facilities. The second modernisation programme will be carried out with U.S. components.
In a significant development, Turkish-U.S. relations reached a new milestone in February 2024. Congress approved Turkiye’s request to acquire two fleets of brand-new F-16 Viper jets and upgrade 79 F-16 aircraft with modernisation kits which will be obtained from the United States. The inclusion of the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 SABR AESA radar, also used in F-35A aircraft, in this modernisation programme is a testament to the technology being employed. According to the current Government to Government negotiations, Turkiye’s modernisation workload will be completed as in previous modernisation programmes. As a result of former upgrades, the Turkish Air Force has no F-16 Block 30. They have all been upgraded to the Block 40 level. Current negotiations foresee the division according to the blocks. The upgrade programme will not require sharing the workload on the same aircraft. In this sense, F-16 block 40 and 50s will be upgraded at the Turkish Defence Ministry’s Eskişehir 1st Air Maintenance Factory Directorate. The directory is also known by its former name, 1st Air Supply and Maintenance Centre Command, while F-16 Block 50+ aircraft will be upgraded at Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) facilities.
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According to this separation, 30 F-16 Block 50+ aircraft must be upgraded at TUSAŞ Ankara while remaining 49 F-16 must go to Eskişehir. Defence Security and Cooperation Agency (DSCA) presented a list to Congress in January 2024, which includes Turkiye’s F-16 modernisation request. The list indicates software upgrades of the Operational Flight Program (OFP) avionics with the Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (AGCAS) capability; hardware modifications to enable integration of the Multifunctional Information Distribution System Block Upgrade II (MIDS BU II), procured separately; hardware and software upgrades to include aircraft major modification; both classified and unclassified software and software support; integration and test support; support equipment; training and training equipment; spare and repair parts; publications and technical documentation; The estimated total cost is $259 million. This is TurDef’s Exclusive News. It can be republished only by attribution of TurDef as a source.
Source:https://turdef.com/article/turkiye-s-f-16-viper-modernisation-to-be-divided-by-two

According to the news, 29 Block 50+, which will be upgraded to F-16V Block 70 level, will be modernized at TAI facilities, and 50 Block 40M will be modernized at Eskişehir 1st Air Supply and Maintenance Center.
 
With only 4 Typhoon in 1435 Flight, the superiority of the Brits over Falkland will be greatly diminished
Perhaps the Falklands detachment will be increased. But I don't imagine the Yanks would allow these F-16s to be used for nuisance flights to the Falklands.
 
With only 4 Typhoon in 1435 Flight, the superiority of the Brits over Falkland will be greatly diminished
Argentina only has 13 operationally ready fighters in total and the UK has two carriers and several tankers that can bring in more Typhoons and F-35s if there's a dodgy-looking build up. There's also a defence pact with France I believe.

 
AMRAAM D and AIM-9X looks like an overkill for the region. That won't please much the Brits.
The issue is range more than anything, they will be plagued by the same issues that limited them in '82, in any potential scenario. Additionally, they only have two KC-130 tankers, which are both very long in the tooth, and haven't been in the greatest of shape as of late.

Also as mentioned, the Tiffies down there have Meteors, which will effectively outrange the AMRAAM by quite a bit, not to mention Sky Sabre.
 
Perhaps the Falklands detachment will be increased. But I don't imagine the Yanks would allow these F-16s to be used for nuisance flights to the Falklands.

I would love to agree on expanding the Falkland detachment, but RAF may have a bit stretched due to the Middle East crisis as well as the Ukraine situation

Argentina only has 13 operationally ready fighters in total and the UK has two carriers and several tankers that can bring in more Typhoons and F-35s if there's a dodgy-looking build up. There's also a defence pact with France I believe.


Once the F-16 arrived the availability should be better as they should be fresh 2nd hand planes and debugging seems unnecessary. And France......

The issue is range more than anything, they will be plagued by the same issues that limited them in '82, in any potential scenario. Additionally, they only have two KC-130 tankers, which are both very long in the tooth, and haven't been in the greatest of shape as of late.

Also as mentioned, the Tiffies down there have Meteors, which will effectively outrange the AMRAAM by quite a bit, not to mention Sky Sabre.

KC-130 can't refuel F-16 (probe-drogue for C-130 and boom for F-16)

However, I do believe the State Department should have some "agreement" with Argentina on the use of equipment...
 
Have there been any moves to add the Meteor to the list of AAMs the F-16 can use?
It is not the Meteor itself, but Turkey is developing a liquid fuel ramjet BVR missile for Kaan and F-16 Özgür (~indigenous V-level avionics upgrade) with a serial production target by 2028.

I think the current AN/APG-83 of Viper is barely enough for the AIM-120D, so hauling even longer range Meteors would be a waste, imo.

In order to solve this problem, Turkey developed an indigenous GaN radar with slightly more TRMs (~1130) than GaAs APG-83, so I think there might be a considerable capability jump.

But admittedly it's still not the same combo as Typhoon and the Meteor.

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Completly forgot that one. Thanks.

But now it makes more senses:

 
But now it makes more senses:


Umm, did President Milei fail high-school geography? Because strictly from a geographical point of view Argentina joining NATO is absurd, for one thing it's in the wrong hemisphere.
 
He's wanting to become a NATO Global Partner, not a NATO member. These are nations which cooperate with NATO regularly, but cannot join the alliance. Argentina has been a major non-NATO ally for decades, even participating in Desert Storm.

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Afghanistan is a NATO partner?

It's definitely the 19th right?
 
You know that Antarctica is right bellow Argentina... (almost).
Also, it would give another thing to think to anyone attempting to size the extreem tip of South America (where reside the only other maritime cross-over route from the Atlantic to the Pacific), something that could only be reverted with a major bloodshed.
 
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Ah, that makes sense, and I suppose that it might help with technical exchanges of information concerning the F-16 given that a number of NATO members fly the F-16.
Probably, and this is also a massive geopolitical win for the US, as it brings Argentina back into the US sphere. Previous governments had been trying to court China for economic development, and the wider trends in South America were pointing towards growing Chinese and Russian influence. This could signal a big shift back to South America by the US in order to compete with China.

Afghanistan is a NATO partner?

It's definitely the 19th right?
They got suspended after certain events in 2021.
 
This could signal a big shift back to South America by the US in order to compete with China.

And Argentina can run interference with Chinese civilian* and PLA:N shipping travelling south of Cape Horn.

They got suspended after certain events in 2021.

Afghanistan's current (And highly illegitimate) government would make membership with NATO as a partner nation highly problematic;).

* I do believe that the Argentine navy has sunk a few PRC fishing boats poaching fish in Argentinian waters in recent years.
 
* I do believe that the Argentine navy has sunk a few PRC fishing boats poaching fish in Argentinian waters in recent years.
Yeah definitely, and given Milei's platform, I can see that he could definitely take a hard line with this issue. Argentina already used to blow them up, perhaps this could be a potential consequence of the high amounts of Chinese fishing? There are multiple reasons behind why Milei is probably trying to win back the favour of the US and West in general, perhaps this is one of them.
 
You know that Antarctica is right bellow Argentina... (almost).
Also, it would give another thing to think to anyone attempting to size the extreem tip of South America (where reside the only other maritime cross-over route from the Atlantic to the Pacific), something that could only be reverted with a major bloodshed.
I don't think external security is one of the areas that Argentina needs to worry about right now. Moreover, this attempt would only poke the bear. I don't think the US can provide any serious security umbrella in current conditions, and it's not like the implied big baddie here (China) is doing anything like that either; they're not the US, they're more peaceful and they achieve their goals in a more under the radar way compared to the guns blazing US.

I think Milei is trying to divert attentions from his eccentric and unsuccessful economic policies.
 

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