KAI KF-21 Boramae (KFX Korean Indigenous Fighter program)

Still displaying the same very good control precision as during their first flight.
Wonder if that the same pilot.

Mach 1.8 is reportedly faster than the F-18E and as fast as a 4th gen not really stealtlhy Rafale.
 
https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/448/0000458259
Until now, it has been testing the stability of the aircraft and missile operation by flying at a low speed of 400 to 800 kilometers per hour, and it was confirmed that it exceeded Mach 1.8 of the top speed of the aircraft for the first time in a test flight on May 2.

https://defence-industry.eu/south-k...d-meteor-missile-from-kf-21-boramae-aircraft/
On May 8, the South Korean Defence Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) conducted a successful test of the Meteor long-range air-to-air missile from the KF-21 Boramae fighter jet.
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Additionally, DAPA also confirmed the successful testing of the IRIS-T short-range air-to-air missile on the same day, further showcasing the KF-21’s versatile armament capabilities. The KF-21 Boramae is now the fourth aircraft type to be integrated with the Meteor missile, following the Rafale, Eurofighter, and Gripen.

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Related photos and videos have not been released yet, but they are expected to be released soon. During the missile launch test, there is no video taken from the outside aircraft, but only video taken from inside KF-21.
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helmutkohl said:
The watermark says mbicnews
thats the problem with ハクMason's Twitter
he takes a lot of work from elsewhere, doesn't credit them, and adds a lot of his own spin to it which half the time is pure speculation.
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Yeah he's just a fanboy at this point, and I've heard that he's not even Korean? Regardless you can't expect to gain useful info from him.
 
snne said:
Yeah he's just a fanboy at this point,
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I mean, the KF21 is a very impressive development for the Koreans. Basically a 4.75Gen fighter, and isn't the KF21 their first home grown fighter design? LO shaped, but still has 4gen engines for right now.

Same with the Turks and Kaan.
 
Scott Kenny said:
I mean, the KF21 is a very impressive development for the Koreans. Basically a 4.75Gen fighter, and isn't the KF21 their first home grown fighter design? LO shaped, but still has 4gen engines for right now.

Same with the Turks and Kaan.
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What I meant by that is he doesn't have much knowledge to offer. As said, he's not different from those fanboys regardless of nationality.

Yes, Kf-21 is most impressive indeed (it's one of my favorite fighters) but bending over backwards to market it as something it's not trying to be is petty imo.
 
snne said:
Yeah he's just a fanboy at this point, and I've heard that he's not even Korean? Regardless you can't expect to gain useful info from him.
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seems like he is from Japan.
if anything though.. he knows where to find the news.
Judging from his posts, he tends to be a week or two late after all the Korean or Japanese mainstream media publishes something.
Then he translates it into English for the global audience.

I think one problem is we don't have like a "Deino" for other Asian arms industries, so thats how ハクMason gets his followers
 
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(Korean Phantom to be retired on early June)
 
Smart very Smart, especially with the four Phantoms along for the ride.
 
snne said:
I'd recommend procuring more FA-50s first. They need to expand their laughable fleet but I'm not even sure they have the budget for more aircraft.

Forget Boramae, even a couple of Vipers don't seem possible at this point.
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yeah I totally agree with this, better to consolidate their fleet first and build up more of the same types to improve both capacity and simplify logistics.

That said, it does seem the Philippines are buying a lot of Korean equipment, as they also bought a number of warships from them too.
A benefit is that should their planes or ships need to be repaired, Korea is not that far away compared to manufacturers in North America or Europe.

It seems that Korean items have good potential in SE Asia, where countries are generally friendly to the US and prefer "Western" systems but also have some distance too (either voluntarily or placed upon them).
For similar reasons I can see Turkish equipment also being appealing for the same reasons, especially with Malaysia and Indonesia.
 
First missile launch (Iris-T) with radar cueing:

South Korea’s KF-21 fighter fires guided IRIS-T missile | Shephard

Manufactured by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), the KF-21 Boramae is a fighter aircraft that resembles the design of the F-35A. South Korea has investing nearly US$8 billion in the fighter development programme which is set to be completed by 2028.
www.shephardmedia.com
 
TomcatViP said:
First missile launch (Iris-T) with radar cueing:

South Korea’s KF-21 fighter fires guided IRIS-T missile | Shephard

Manufactured by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI), the KF-21 Boramae is a fighter aircraft that resembles the design of the F-35A. South Korea has investing nearly US$8 billion in the fighter development programme which is set to be completed by 2028.
www.shephardmedia.com
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...and MBDA Meteor too.

n.news.naver.com

국산 KF-21, 공대공 미사일 '미티어·AIM-2000' 실사격 성공(종합)

KF-21 초도물량 20대 추가 계약에도 청신호 김귀근 김준태 기자 = 국산 초음속 전투기 KF-21 '보라매'가 8일 공대공미사일 '미티어'(Meteor)와 'AIM-2000' 첫 실사격을 잇달아 성공적으로 마쳤다
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www.flightglobal.com

Korean official floats possibility of dropping Indonesia from KF-21 development

The head of South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration has mooted the possibility of dropping Indonesia from the joint Korea Aersospace Industries KF-21 fighter programme.
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In an interview with the Korea JoongAng Daily, DAPA chief Seok Jong-gun says that Jakarta’s continued participation could hinge on an investigation that Indonesian engineers allegedly stole sensitive programme data.
“If the investigation results show that a significant technology leak has occurred, we would reconsider co-operating at all in joint development,” says Seok.
 
snne said:
Size- and engine choice-wise, it is basically a Korean Superbug in a low observable airframe. This is even more so the case when it comes to the proposed Naval variant.

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Looks more like the legacy Hornet with Super Hornet engines from a size perspective.
 
Block 2 is expected to get LO.

Block-1 "semi LO" and of course Korea will "milk" the platform for its maximum capability, including that EW version. I doubt tho the ESM can be housed at wingtip, without considerable structural change.
 
I certainly would not like to be the back seater in the Boramea EW that is for sure. It would be a tight squeeze helmutkohl. No doubt that is only an early design that will be changed given time.
 
It would be a mistake not to put LO treatment onto the boramea block 2 stealthflanker why go to all the bother of shaping the KF-21 when you would not put RAM coating on as well.
 
FighterJock said:
I certainly would not like to be the back seater in the Boramea EW that is for sure. It would be a tight squeeze helmutkohl. No doubt that is only an early design that will be changed given time.
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In the absence of duplicated flight controls, you don’t need much space for a backseater. (Probably rudder pedals are more space consuming than any other flight control.) Looking back at the Buccaneer S2’s conversion to fire TV guided Martel missiles, the biggest issue was locating a big cathode ray tube for the observer. Not a problem with modern displays. Moreover, you don’t need much space to safely operate an ejection seat. If the Koreans can avoid moving a major structural bulkhead, a cramped backseat the the way to go.
 
I can see your point TinWing, especially with the modern cockpit displays that you are seeing nowadays with the Typhoon and F-35, I could see Bpramae go down that same route and not have then need with a seperate rear cockpit which I was wanting.
 
FighterJock said:
It would be a mistake not to put LO treatment onto the boramea block 2 stealthflanker why go to all the bother of shaping the KF-21 when you would not put RAM coating on as well.
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I’d argue that lower procurement and maintenance cost are reason enough to skip the RAM coatings. Moreover, deleting internal bays in favor of conformal carriage for AAMs gives you more internal volume for fuel. In a typical air-to-air mission, the benefits of RAM and internal bays are minimal. The same goes for traditional SEAD, with big offensive jammer pods under the wings, like the EW variant. If a plane is actively emitting, what’s the point of RAM? Stealth is great for first day of war strike missions, but realistically, a few weeks into a high intensity peer conflict, those RAM coating will be seriously degraded and the ground will focus more on keeping the remaining airframes airworthy.

In the case of the KF-21, I’d guess there are export considerations that would preclude RAM coatings as well.
 
something is off about that image.

looks like there are two pilots crammed into the single seater
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I certainly would not like to be the back seater in the Boramea EW that is for sure. It would be a tight squeeze helmutkohl. No doubt that is only an early design that will be changed given time.
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Why are you all having pages long discussions about something that is clearly meant to be only illustrative?
 
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It seems that there will be 3 major variants:

EA version for escort jammer

EX version for full fledged 5+th gen fighter

SA version for export - to 'an unknown customer'

They are just the earliest draft as of now, though.
 

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