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awesome new video of KFX yesterday
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8Q7DQ8t68
here's some screenshots i took
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seems like they installed the AESA radar
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The main body has finally been assembled together.
Also note the second KFX in the background
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Space for where the two weapons bay would be. But this version will not use it for now. the internal bay is for future versions.
I'm curious if all 3 would be flying. Like.. one could be a static test frame.awesome new video of KFX yesterday
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8Q7DQ8t68
here's some screenshots i took
View attachment 649137
seems like they installed the AESA radar
View attachment 649138
The main body has finally been assembled together.
Also note the second KFX in the background
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Space for where the two weapons bay would be. But this version will not use it for now. the internal bay is for future versions.
Not only 002, but also 003!
View: https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1352974537252511744
I'm curious if all 3 would be flying. Like.. one could be a static test frame.awesome new video of KFX yesterday
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8Q7DQ8t68
here's some screenshots i took
View attachment 649137
seems like they installed the AESA radar
View attachment 649138
The main body has finally been assembled together.
Also note the second KFX in the background
View attachment 649139
Space for where the two weapons bay would be. But this version will not use it for now. the internal bay is for future versions.
Not only 002, but also 003!
View: https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1352974537252511744
I would be surprised if all three would be flying prototypes, at least one should be left out for static testing. Though I wonder how many prototypes are being built of the KFX?
From what I understand it is equivalent to the standard -400 model but just assembled by Hanwha with some parts made under licence.Any information of F414-GE-400KI?
How would it differ from existing variants?
Would it use any of tech insertion that was going to happen on a production 414EPE?
South Korea is in talks with Indonesia about a joint project to develop a next-generation fighter jet, the head of the arms procurement agency said Tuesday, amid speculation that the Southeast Asian nation wants to quit the project.
Indonesia agreed to partner in South Korea's KF-X project aimed at developing a new fighter jet by 2026, and promised to shoulder 20 percent of the total development cost of 8.8 trillion won (US$7.3 billion), or about 1.7 trillion won.
But Indonesia stopped making payments after investing 227.2 billion won, with around 600 billion won overdue.
"We are in the process of sounding out each other's position," Kang Eun-ho, chief of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration, said during a press briefing. "We will elaborate in detail when the time is right."
Indonesia's initial goal was to procure aircraft for its air force and advance the country's aerospace industry through the partnership but foreign media have been reporting that the Southeast Asian nation is now pushing to sign a deal with France to purchase new fighter jets.
6 prototypes and 2 static testbeds.I'm curious if all 3 would be flying. Like.. one could be a static test frame.awesome new video of KFX yesterday
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8Q7DQ8t68
here's some screenshots i took
View attachment 649137
seems like they installed the AESA radar
View attachment 649138
The main body has finally been assembled together.
Also note the second KFX in the background
View attachment 649139
Space for where the two weapons bay would be. But this version will not use it for now. the internal bay is for future versions.
Not only 002, but also 003!
View: https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1352974537252511744
I would be surprised if all three would be flying prototypes, at least one should be left out for static testing. Though I wonder how many prototypes are being built of the KFX?
Uhh, watcha talking about "paying royalties to LM"? If anything, you're talking out of your ass. Their role in this program is limited to technical assistance, which is an offset deal included in the 3rd F-X program that led to the procurement of F-35s, thus LM as TAC.i think this aircraft will be an ultra expensive program, highly limited to South Korea at the most, produced in small numbers at a very high price like the F-2 from Japan, they will need to pay royalties to Lockheed and going to be limited for exports to do not compete with F-35, honestly not a very original nor beautiful aircraft.
I prefer Rafale, well just kidding i like more Rafale, but well that is just my point of view not necesarelly the truth
If anyone's interested in manufacturing process automation, I recommend watching the footage starting from 7:53 mark. This time they've let the crew to film a longer footage of FASS and LRDS, both done by automated machines.
thats good.. I think.
Indonesia's plan to purchase F-15EX, Rafale jets 'separate' from KF-X joint figther development program
Indonesia's plan to purchase F-15EX, Rafale jets 'separate' from KF-X joint fighter development program: DAPA | Yonhap News Agency
SEOUL, Feb. 20 -- South Korea's arms procurement agency said Saturday that Indonesia&...en.yna.co.kr
It would probably be the Flankers which were purchased in the 2000s that they would retire, could be a premature one as well, given the growing difficulties surrounding its maintenance due to various reasons and their shift to STANAG weaponry. I've heard somewhere that those Rafales are meant to do that. One's got to remember that during 2018 they've only planned to procure 11 or so Flankers, which are now replaced with plans to buy 8 Eagles. Going extra with those Rafales are in order to replace the Flanker AFAIK. I don't think that they will ditch the Flankers right away though, as they are modernizing it.thats good. I think its imperative that Indonesia stays in.
Unlike the F-15, Rafale, or Flankers.. the KFX is something Indonesia actually has some ownership of. Like the CN-235
it's important for their domestic industry
I hope its a type they can standardize around in the 2030s. Alongside whatever they decide to go with.. F-15s, Rafales, more F-16s or Flankers.
but perhaps reduce a few types. not sure which.
supposedly the KFX is to replace the Hawk (i thought the Golden Eagle was supposed to do that)
Most of the avionics are Korean but as you suggest, there are indeed some critical components like Cobham's conformal antennas or UMS MMIC modules which are being imported as well.Lockheed Martin has reportedly given (I imagine that means sold) 8 of the 12 technologies that KFX team required. Now - it's perfectly possible that a tech transfer contract has an article in it where the seller retains control of who the product of the technology used to make the plane goes to. Exactly the same issue is now being used against Chinese chipmakers, for example. They can't sell their chips because the machines that make the chips are not indigenous, even though the chips themselves are.
Furthermore, KFX has US engines. So there might be some influence of various US parties through that piece of leverage as well. "You want to sell KFX to country XYZ? Sorry, no engines for those airframes"
And in all likelihood there are bound to be some more US sourced systems, besides engines, to be used in KFX.
So... overall, I don't think KFX will be selling a lot outside the two countries that ordered it. If for some reason US can't sell F-35s, F-18s, F-15s or F-16s to that country - then sure, those might sell. But when one removes countries that might otherwise be interested in those types - there aren't that many affluent countries left that would be interested in KFX.
Lockheed Martin has reportedly given (I imagine that means sold) 8 of the 12 technologies that KFX team required. Now - it's perfectly possible that a tech transfer contract has an article in it where the seller retains control of who the product of the technology used to make the plane goes to. Exactly the same issue is now being used against Chinese chipmakers, for example. They can't sell their chips because the machines that make the chips are not indigenous, even though the chips themselves are.
Furthermore, KFX has US engines. So there might be some influence of various US parties through that piece of leverage as well. "You want to sell KFX to country XYZ? Sorry, no engines for those airframes"
And in all likelihood there are bound to be some more US sourced systems, besides engines, to be used in KFX.
So... overall, I don't think KFX will be selling a lot outside the two countries that ordered it. If for some reason US can't sell F-35s, F-18s, F-15s or F-16s to that country - then sure, those might sell. But when one removes countries that might otherwise be interested in those types - there aren't that many affluent countries left that would be interested in KFX.
Nah, Altay wasn't really Korean's business anymore once the development was over. They have fulfilled all their obligations and was paid for. All that left was supplying some parts like suspension system to Turkey. Also nothing is French in K-2. It's a misconception because the autoloader looks similar. The only important part left that is imported is the Renk transmission. Koreans are having a hard time developing their own.Lockheed Martin has reportedly given (I imagine that means sold) 8 of the 12 technologies that KFX team required. Now - it's perfectly possible that a tech transfer contract has an article in it where the seller retains control of who the product of the technology used to make the plane goes to. Exactly the same issue is now being used against Chinese chipmakers, for example. They can't sell their chips because the machines that make the chips are not indigenous, even though the chips themselves are.
Furthermore, KFX has US engines. So there might be some influence of various US parties through that piece of leverage as well. "You want to sell KFX to country XYZ? Sorry, no engines for those airframes"
And in all likelihood there are bound to be some more US sourced systems, besides engines, to be used in KFX.
So... overall, I don't think KFX will be selling a lot outside the two countries that ordered it. If for some reason US can't sell F-35s, F-18s, F-15s or F-16s to that country - then sure, those might sell. But when one removes countries that might otherwise be interested in those types - there aren't that many affluent countries left that would be interested in KFX.
off the top of my head.. some issues Koreans had
Argentina - they tried to sell FA-50s there. But it fell through. not because of US parts but UK parts. Last I heard the Koreans were trying to replace it with something local. But tbh.. not sure if Argentina can buy any western combat aircraft due to the UK relationship
Turkey - Turks Altay tank is basically a souped up K2 black panther tank. After Erdogan's foreign policy moves, the tank's progress has been set back due to unavailability of parts. They went back to the Koreans for help but the Koreans can't do anything as their own version, engine is German, and they use French for another part. two countries that are not Turkish friendly at the moment.
sorry i was referring to Altay and the French armor it cant use anymoreNah, Altay wasn't really Korean's business anymore once the development was over. They have fulfilled all their obligations and was paid for. All that left was supplying some parts like suspension system to Turkey. Also nothing is French in K-2. It's a misconception because the autoloader looks similar. The only important part left that is imported is the Renk transmission. Koreans are having a hard time developing their own.Lockheed Martin has reportedly given (I imagine that means sold) 8 of the 12 technologies that KFX team required. Now - it's perfectly possible that a tech transfer contract has an article in it where the seller retains control of who the product of the technology used to make the plane goes to. Exactly the same issue is now being used against Chinese chipmakers, for example. They can't sell their chips because the machines that make the chips are not indigenous, even though the chips themselves are.
Furthermore, KFX has US engines. So there might be some influence of various US parties through that piece of leverage as well. "You want to sell KFX to country XYZ? Sorry, no engines for those airframes"
And in all likelihood there are bound to be some more US sourced systems, besides engines, to be used in KFX.
So... overall, I don't think KFX will be selling a lot outside the two countries that ordered it. If for some reason US can't sell F-35s, F-18s, F-15s or F-16s to that country - then sure, those might sell. But when one removes countries that might otherwise be interested in those types - there aren't that many affluent countries left that would be interested in KFX.
off the top of my head.. some issues Koreans had
Argentina - they tried to sell FA-50s there. But it fell through. not because of US parts but UK parts. Last I heard the Koreans were trying to replace it with something local. But tbh.. not sure if Argentina can buy any western combat aircraft due to the UK relationship
Turkey - Turks Altay tank is basically a souped up K2 black panther tank. After Erdogan's foreign policy moves, the tank's progress has been set back due to unavailability of parts. They went back to the Koreans for help but the Koreans can't do anything as their own version, engine is German, and they use French for another part. two countries that are not Turkish friendly at the moment.
The actual problem Korea had with exporting armored vehicles that has German powerpack in it was when Hanwha tried to sell the K-9 to UAE. Last year it came close to inking the deal but didn't realise due to German restrictions of selling weapon related systems to this region.
It could be a problem for KF-X as well as it plans to use IRIS-T. The US hasn't let the integration license of AIM-9X and AIM-120, citing that there exists no aircraft with which the integration could take place. KAI is therefore planning the obtain integration license once they roll-out to prototype. Until then, it would remain an uncertainty and potentially and obstacle in its way to foreign sales.
here is a second video that shows the front shot and cockpit shotVery good pace indeed
notice 3 prototypes in the line
But the KFX itself is a 4.5th generation aircraft (with later versions intended to evolve towards something more akin to a 5th generation aircraft).here is a second video that shows the front shot and cockpit shotVery good pace indeed
notice 3 prototypes in the line
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqrma7UBmTw
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From the first video, you can see all 4 KFXs down the line being assembled
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Turkey feathers!! not serrated though
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from the 2nd video. close up of the seat.
wow, Turkey should have really stayed in this program and hopefully Indonesia can resolve their differences with KAI.
i also agree with VTOLdelicious, that its something Europe should have had already but I had a feeling that them going in the 4.5 route in the 90s/2000s reduced the chance of them going 5th gen, and why they're probably gonna skip to 6th gen.