Future USAF Transport Projects (MACK, ATT, NGT, AMC-X, AJACS, HAWSTOL, Speed Agile)

[Stuka]

From another thread.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Merging Topics.

 

[HeavyG]

Well Anotnov himself was Russian. While the Design Bureau is in Kiev the factories were across the old Soviet Union with the one in Ukraine being very much in the Russian part (Kharkov). But not that anyone in the Antonov business should be complaining. Their business future is very much in the west alignment not selling to Russia.

Maybe one day we will see An-72s being built in the US South (Alabama, Mississippi, Florida) with a US Label (Raytheon, Northrop, maybe even Boeing...). But I guess that depends on how USAF approaches the inevitable replacement of the C-130H.

Abraham,

There's a replacement for the C-130H...the C-130J.

 

[spectre]

Abraham,

There's a replacement for the C-130H...the C-130J.

Ummm.. no it isn't

 

[Matej]

"Low-observable (stealth) transport aircraft concept" from NASA´s center for advanced engineering environments.

 

[Matej]

Found this quite cool B-MACK image in a Lockheed FB-22 presentation.

(the original post is in the first page of the topic)

Is this really B-MACK? Only now I noted the very different platform, compared to the previously known MACK/BMACK renderings. Namely absolutely different wing shape, trailing edge, canards...

 

[pedrosp]

HEY GUYS ,WHY ARE THE MAJORATY OF THIS PAGE IMAGES CLOSED? I HAVEN´T SEEN THEM YET...

 

[flateric]

because you must read Forum Rules first and understand them before posting here and have ability to access full forum contents

 

[fightingirish]

This tiny picture is from the following PDF.
The PDF-file is a Powerpoint - presentation about Boeing's Advanced Systems shown at Farnborough 2008.
Link (PDF): http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/farnborough08/assets/presentations/AdvSys_Farn_2008_RevC.pdf

 

[flateric]

Matej can start to think of another drawing...
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=NIKbAAAAEBAJ

one of inventors is Darold Cummings, Chief Configuration Designer for the Northrop YF-23

 

[flateric]

some old, some new

 

[donnage99]

Thanks alot Flateric! What do u mean new? Since i thought these programs are cancelled in favor of a joint heavy lift between army and air force.

 

[flateric]

Should I say 'old new' renderings then

 

[donnage99]

I didn't mean to pick on your wording. I only wanted to make sure that I'm not missing any new information if there is any.

 

[Matej]

Grabbed from the presentation: Stealth mobility and support aircraft for US Special Operation Forces, Robert Martinage, 2007

 

[flateric]

Oh, thanks!

 

[donnage99]

...........

 

[flateric]

donnage99, where it came from - if possible?

 

[flateric]

just for memo - "MACK was an acronym for M(stealthy transport), AC(gunship), and K-X(penetrating tanker)."
http://www.aiaa.org/Aerospace/images/articleimages/pdf/insightsoctober04.pdf

 

[donnage99]

Flateric, it's from the same presentation on Configurable Air Transport. Here:
http://mikesnead.net/resources/cat/configurable_air_transport_cat_presentation_2006_airlift_tanker_assoc_conference.pdf

 

[flateric]

thanks!

 

[Retrofit]

Flateric, it's from the same presentation on Configurable Air Transport. Here:
http://mikesnead.net/resources/cat/configurable_air_transport_cat_presentation_2006_airlift_tanker_assoc_conference.pdf

Very interesting document, thanks Donnage!
Flateric, any equivalent studies conducted by the Russian Federation Air Force so far?

Thanks in advance,

Philippe

 

[flateric]

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,405.msg67313.html#msg67313
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,405.msg81432.html#msg81432
there are versions with more emphasis on stealth
fate of this program, meantime, is much less certain than JHTLV and if it will ever gain momentum, it will be far future

 

[Stargazer]

Flateric, it's from the same presentation on Configurable Air Transport. Here:
http://mikesnead.net/resources/cat/configurable_air_transport_cat_presentation_2006_airlift_tanker_assoc_conference.pdf

Very, very nice document. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

Interesting aircraft in the lead - any idea of who's concepts these are?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Press-Transparency-Advanced-Transport-Concepts-/380237905329?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5887f1fdb1

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Skybolt]

It is reminiscent of the Lockheed-Georgia "lambda" design.

 

[Orionblamblam]

Except this one is VTOL.

 

[Skybolt]

Yep, the openings for the sustain engines. BTW, since all the concepts seem to use UHB fans, time-period should be mid to late '80s.

 

[fightingirish]

The patent of Boeing's "super-STOL" tactical transport concept "Speed Agile"
Ares Blog - Patent Lifts Veil on Boeing's Speed Agile

 

[Triton]

The patent of Boeing's "super-STOL" tactical transport concept "Speed Agile"
Ares Blog - Patent Lifts Veil on Boeing's Speed Agile

 

[flateric]

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2765.msg92350/
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2308.msg40829.html#msg40829

 

[Triton]

Boeing C-17FE (Fuel Efficient) concept unveiled as an Advanced Theater Transport solution at Farnborough International Airshow 2010.

Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/07/farn10-will-boeing-fatten-orde.html

 

[flateric]

http://www.boeing.com/farnborough2010/presentation/c17.pdf

 

[Triton]

AFRL Fixed Wing Airframe Technology Roadmap from 2007.

Source:
Warwick, Graham "AFRL's Speed Agile sets USAF airlift agenda" The Woracle October 11, 2007
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/graham-warwick/2007/10/afrl.html

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Boeing C-17FE.

Source:
Sweetman, Bill. "Boeing's Military Course Change" Ares July 29, 2010
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a347a17bb-c1ee-49dd-b6ee-2fd7d6a8c48a&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

 

[fightingirish]

Source: http://www.airforce-magazine.com/DRArchive/Pages/2010/July%202010/July%2023%202010/C-17Evolvesfrom%27A%27to%27B%27to%27FE%27.aspx

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://deepbluehorizon.blogspot.com/2010/07/speed-agile-stealth-transport-design.html

 

[John21]

I found some more information on the Speed Agile project:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a4ed2785f-832c-4f7f-8a7b-1d820cb2b07a

Hell looks like something from Halo.(way overrated series by the way) ;D

 

[Triton]

Artist's impressions of Lockheed Martin Speed Agile concept.

Source:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a4ed2785f-832c-4f7f-8a7b-1d820cb2b07a

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Northrop Grumman Speed Agile concept.

Source:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a4ed2785f-832c-4f7f-8a7b-1d820cb2b07a