French Aircraft Specifications 1919-1939

[hesham]

Hi,

also in 1940,I forget to add;

Two-seat trainer seaplane; SCAN Project,maybe SCAN-10.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1923


- Transport and airliner aircraft; Farman F.3X & F.4S,Buscaylet de Monge 7/2,Potez-XXII,
Caudron C.83,Breguet XXII,Bleriot-115 & Bleriot-?

The anther Bleriot was Type-105.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1934

-"C.1" single seat fighter; SPAD S.710,Morane-Saulnier MS.405,Nieuport N.160 & N.161,
Dewoitine D.513,Loire-250,Bloch MB.150 and lightweight fighters;
Caudron-Renault CR.710,ANF-Mureaux-190 and Arsenal VG.30

I forget to add Makonine MAK-110 fighter Project.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1930

- Police colonial aircraft; Nieuport NiD-590 & NiD-690,Dewoitine D.430,SPCA-81,Bernard 160 &
161,Loire 11 & 20,Potez-40,Romano R.16,SAB (Lorraine-Hanriot) LH-70,
Bloch-120,Weymann-40,Farman F.196,Caudron C.180 and also SPCA-90

I add two aircraft to this competition.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1930


- "C.1" single seat fighter; ANF-Mureaux-170,Bernard 260,261 & 262,Dewoitine D.370,
D.500,D.47,D.49,D.50,D.51 & D.52,Gourdou-Leseurre GL-480,
GL-481,GL-482 & GL-422,Kellner-Bechereau KB.29,Latecoere
Late.510,Loire 41,42,43 & 44,Morane-Saulnier MS.224,MS.225,
MS.275,MS.320,MS.325,MS.420 & MS.520,Farman F-1020,
Nieuport NiD-82,NiD-120,NiD-121 & NiD-122,SPAD S-510,
Virmoux V.1 & V.2 and Wibault Wib.310,Wib.311,Wib.312 & Wib.313

Sorry for this mistake,

there was two competitions,one in 1930 and the second in 1932,

for C.1 of 1930,the tenders were;

Kellner-Bechereau KB.29,Loire 41,42 & 44,Virmoux V.1 & V.2,Dewoitine D.47,D.47bis,D.49,D.49bis,D.50,D.50bis,D.51 & D.52,
Wibault Wib.310,Wib.311 & Wib.312,Farman F.1020 and Latecoere 510

for C.1 of 1932 (revised contest),the tenders were;

Bleriot-SPAD S-510,Bernard 260,261 & 262,Dewoitine D.370 & D.500,Lorraine-Hanriot 110,
Morane-Saulnier MS.224,MS.225,MS.275,MS.320,MS.325,MS.420 & MS.520,Nieuport NiD-82,
NiD-120,NiD-121 & NiD-122,Loire 43,ANF-Mureaux 170,Gourdou-Leseurre GL-480,GL-481,
GL-482 & GL-422

 

[hesham]

for 1921

- Torpedo recce bomber; Levassuer PL-2,Farman-Blanchard design and Dewoitine D.6

Also Farman submitted F.50T to this competition.

 

[hesham]

for 1920

- "BN.2" two seat night bomber; Dewoitine D.4,Wibault Wib.2,Amiot-100 (Amiot-X) and Caudron C.53

Also for this competition,Farman submitted F.50P to it.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1933


- "A.3" three seat recce aircraft; Weymann CTW-100,Breguet Br.23/230 (second allocated) and
Dyle et Bacalan DB-50

Also Lorraine-Hanriot LH-80 was involved.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1939

-"C.2" two seat fighter; Delanne DL.10 and Bloch MB.1040

Maybe Fauvel AV.29,AV.29-I,AV.29-II & AV.30 fighter Projects were submitted to this contest.

 

[hesham]

-Trainer and tourist aircraft; Potez-60,Farman F.451 & F.480,Salmson D.6 Cri-Cri,Caudron C.275,
Mauboussin M.112 & M.120,SPCA Peryet Taupin,Avia XIA,XVA,111
& 151 and Leopoldoff.

Also Sablier Type-40 was involved.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1932

- "ET.2" two seat primary trainer aircraft; Romano R.80 and SEMA 10

In this competition,the Morane-Saulnier MS.330 and Lorraine-Hanriot LH.30 were involved.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1939

-"C.2" two seat fighter; Delanne DL.10 and Bloch MB.1040

Also Capra R.40 & R.41 submitted to this contest.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1928

- Transatlantic-South Seaplane; Bleriot-5190,Latecoere Late.38,Late.300 & Late.500,LeO H-27
and SPCA Neptune

I add this competition today.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1933

- Single seat fighter seaplane; Bernard H.110,Potez-453,Loire-210 and Romano R.90

From Le Fana 155,

very strange,that in 1935 there was a competition for two- seat catapult seaplane fighter,
and Dewoitine D.374 was involved in it,I don't know any contest around this period except
this one,but it was for single seat fighter !,can anyone explain to me what was it ?.

 

[Deltafan]

Sorry, Nothing for this competition in the Docavia book about Dewoitine.

In this book, the words about the D.374 are exactly the same as in Le Fana.

 

[hesham]

That's right my dear Deltafan,

so i will search about it in the books; Les hydravions à coque.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

also in 1939

- BP2 two-seat light and dive bomber : SNCAO CAO-800 & CAO-810,no other contenders are known

 

[Deltafan]

From the Docavia about Nieuport, there was no competition for the CAO 810. There was a proposal from CAO to the Armée de l'Air for a 2-seats ligth and dive bomber and reconnaissance Aircraft.
Nothing is said about the CAO 800.

 

[hesham]

That's right my dear Deltafan,

and I have this book,but in TU magazine,they told us that there was a new program for
two-seat light-dive bomber in 1939,and that means it was a contest,but no more details
are known,about CAO-800,it was early study to CAO-810,without any Info.

 

[Deltafan]

OK, thanks.

 

[hesham]

I am pride to belong to this great forum,

and all of you most be that,our works is taken by a biggest encyclopedia in the world,and
after 20 years,I spent it in collection French Aircraft Specifications from a tens of books
and a hundreds of magazines,they quoted it literally,many thanks to them;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_STA%C3%A9_specifications

 

[hesham]

I am pride to belong to this great forum,

and all of you most be that,our works is taken by a biggest encyclopedia in the world,and
after 20 years,I spent it in collection French Aircraft Specifications from a tens of books
and a hundreds of magazines,they quoted it literally,many thanks to them;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_STA%C3%A9_specifications

Something new;

1919; GR longe range aircraft; SPAD S-28

1920; EP.2 two sear primary trainer aircraft;SPAD S-34

1920; CAP.2 (anther one) two-seat recce and observation high altitude aircraft; SPAS S-36 & S-40

1922; ET.2 two-seat trainer aircraft; SPAD S-62

1923; ET.1 single seat trainer aircraft,also SPAD S-72 were involved

 

[hesham]

Hi,

also for 1940

- T transport aircraft; SNCAO CAO-720,no other contenders were known
- TOR maritime recce torpedo bomber; SNCAO CAO-700M,no other tenders were known

 

[Stargazer]

our works is taken by a biggest encyclopedia in the world,and
after 20 years,I spent it in collection French Aircraft Specifications from a tens of books
and a hundreds of magazines,they quoted it literally,many thanks to them;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_STA%C3%A9_specifications

Which is EXACTLY why I've always been a little particular (some call it finnicky, obsessive, anal retentive or whatever, I don't care) about correcting mistakes on this forum, because I know full well that something people will find here will be taken as gospel truth, copied, pasted elsewhere (usually Wikipedia) and then live a life of its own, usually through the hundreds of mirror sites that duplicate Wikipedia. And once a wrong, imcomplete or inaccurate piece of information is found a thousand times on the web, how can you correct it? Even if you post a correction, it will be invisible in the flood of other pages.

Anyway, thanks hesham for exploring with such persistence, and trying to make sense of, the specifications of my own country.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Skyblazer.

 

[Archibald]

And kudos to you two, indeed: you really need to be bold, brave, and stubborn, to dig such a difficult and obscure subject. Indeed, France interbellum Staé was very much Terry Gilliam Brazil dystopic, crazy bureaucracy - except for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvo6ChoKCF4

(Les Guignols, et la World Company. To think they are gone. BEEEUUUUAAAAARH !!!)

 

[hesham]

- Transatlantic South seaplane; Bleriot-5190,Latecoere Late.38,Late.300 & Late.500,LeO H-27,
CAMS-58 and SPCA Neptune

Maybe Breguet Br.500 was involved.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

in 1938 - A two seat racer aircraft; SFCA Lignel-16,no other contenders were known.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1923


- "ET.1" single seat basic trainer; Nieuport NiD-29,Caudron C.77

In this competition,the NiD-29 ET.1 modified with 180 hp Hispano engine.

 

[hesham]

From L'Aeronautique 1923,

I add "ET.2" of 1923 to the list,and some new entries to "ET.1".

 

[hesham]

-"S.3" three seat recce seaplane; Liore et Olivier LeO H-23,CAMS-80,Latham-63,Romano R-5
CAMS-37/9,Loire-50 and Latecoere Late.410

I re-named this competition,and there was eight proposals,but I don't know the eighth ?.

 

[hesham]

For the year 1925

- "C.2" two seat fighter; Breguet Br.25,SPAD S-60 & S-70,De Monge M-101,Dewoitine D.25
Levasseur PL-6,Potez-31,Salmson-Bechereau SB-5 & SB-6,Nieuport Ni.47,
Avimeta Avi.88,ANF-3 & ANF-4,Wibault Wib.8,Wib.12 & Wib,121,
Hanriot HD.33,Villiers Vil.5 & Vil.24 and Descapms D17

I add Villiers Vil.5 to the competition.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1931

- Ambulance light aircraft; Bloch Bl-80,Lorraine-Hanriot LH-21S and Potez-420

From Aviation magazine 1965,

we can add; Albert A-11,Guillemin JG.40 & JG.41,Potez-421 and Loire-Gourdou-Leseurre GL-23TS

 

[hesham]

-"B.5" five seat heavy bomber aircraft; SNCAO CAO-700 & CAO-710,Bloch MB.162 & MB.163,Potez-660
Amiot-380,SNCAC NC.110,Air-Couzinet AC.20 & AC.21,Breguet Br.480 and Dewoitine D.800

From Aviation magazine 1964,we can add;

Dewoitine D.820,SNCASE-Romano R-120,SNCAC NC.140 and Bloch MB.135.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1931

- Long range flying boat; Loire-70,CAMS-E32,Latecoere Late.580,Breguet Br.520 & Br.521,
Liore et Olivier H-42 and Latham 43 & 47

From Aviation magazine;

also Latecoere Late.38/6 was involved.

 

[hesham]

- "ET.1" single seat basic trainer; Nieuport NiD-29,Caudron C.77,Spad S.72,Hanriot HD.27 & Nieuport N.29E

Also Gourdou-Leseurre GL.22 ET.1 was involved.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1928

-"A.2" two sear recce aircraft; Breguet Br.270,Potez P.390,Dyle et Bacalab DB-30,Caudron C.140,Weymann Wel-10 & Wel-11,ANF-Mureaux-130,Latecoere Late.490,Amiot-130,Nieuport NiD-580,Wibault Wib.124 & Wib.125

There is a mixing between two programes here;

- "A.2" two seat observation aircraft; Breguet Br.270 & Br.271,Caudron C.140,
Dyle et Bacalab DB-30,Potez-390,Mureaux ANF-130 & ANF-131,Weymann
Wel-11 and Wib.124 & Wib.125

- "R.2" two seat recce aircraft; Amiot-130,Breguet Br.330,Latecoere Late.490,Mureaux ANF-110 & ANF-111,Nieuport NiD-580,Potez-37,Weymann Wel-10 & Wel-80 and Wibault Wib.260


Aviation Magazine 1963

 

[hesham]

Hi,


for the year 1938


-"B.4" four seat medium bomber; Amiot-400,SNCAC NC.150 and Delanne DL.150 & DL.151


-"Ent.2" two seat primary trainer aircraft; Caudron-Renault CR.870 and Dewoitine D.580


-Three seat shipboard recce flying boat or seaplane; SNCAC NC.420,
Breguet Br.792 and Gourdou G.130

-"A.3" three seat observation aircraft; Caudron C.820

Also in this year;

A-80 single seat seaplane fighter; SNCAO CAO.1000,Dewoitine/SNCAM
D.590,Letacoere Late.675 and Bloch MB.720

Avions 235

 

[hesham]

for the year 1933

- "M5" five seat multi-place combat aircraft; Farman F.420,
Breguet Br.460,Amiot-144,Dewoitine D.420,Bloch-130,Potez
P.540 & P.541 and SAB (Bordelaise) AB.80

Also Couzinet RC.190 was involved.

 

[hesham]

for the year 1923


- "C.1" single seat fighter; Buscalet-Bechereau BB-2,Dewoitine D.9,D.12,D.13,
D.15,D.19 & D.21,Hanriot HD.31,Loire-Gourdou et Leseurre LGL.32,Nieuport Ni.42,Ni.44 & Ni.46,Breguet Br.24,Wibault Wib.7 & Wib.9,Bernard 12,14 & 15,SPAD S-511,S-512,S-514,S-611,S-612,S-613,S-614
& S-615,Potez 23 & 26 and Gourdou et Leseurre GL.33

From Air Magazine 10,

a 28 competitors.