DD(X) DDG-1000 Zumwalt-class destroyers

TomS said:
And we're back around to POLAR. Because if you're putting GMLRS in a VLS, you might as well take advantage of the cell depth and extend the rocket motor significantly.
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What would be interresting (or atleast the performance it could achieve) when we take a POLAR sized GMLRS-ER using an SDB glider with an GMLRS warhead (i heard they had tested something like that). Range could be quite big
 
kqcke for you said:
What would be interresting (or atleast the performance it could achieve) when we take a POLAR sized GMLRS-ER using an SDB glider with an GMLRS warhead (i heard they had tested something like that). Range could be quite big
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Yeah, that would go a long, long way. I'm not sure the last increment from a glider would offset the potential of a much larger bang in a purely ballistic version.

The other proposed weapon from the same era that might be worth revisiting is the Vertical-launch Autonomous Attack System, which was a VL ASROC booster with multiple (3 or 4, I think) LOCAAS attack drones as a payload. LOCAAS seems like exactly the sort of munition that would be useful these days.
 

Zumwalt is currently at HII’s Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula, Miss., for a yard period preparing the ship to accommodate CPS. Part of that overhaul is removing the destroyer’s 155mm Advanced Gun Systems and fitting it with four large diameter tubes to accommodate the missiles for CPS. Wolfe said this work is complete and went well. The ship is expected to come out of the yard next year.

The CPS system is modular, featuring an all-up round missile and a separate modular payload adapter. Wolfe said the Navy is currently testing the adapter, the missile and the eject system.
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AP article has a few interesting shots of Zumwalt in the yard.
apnews.com

Stealth destroyer to be home for 1st hypersonic weapon on a US warship

The U.S. Navy is making progress in deploying its first shipborne hypersonic weapon. Workers at a Mississippi shipyard have finished installing missile tubes on the USS Zumwalt that will replace twin turrets from a gun system that was never activated because it was too expensive.
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Moose said:
AP article has a few interesting shots of Zumwalt in the yard.
apnews.com

Stealth destroyer to be home for 1st hypersonic weapon on a US warship

The U.S. Navy is making progress in deploying its first shipborne hypersonic weapon. Workers at a Mississippi shipyard have finished installing missile tubes on the USS Zumwalt that will replace twin turrets from a gun system that was never activated because it was too expensive.
apnews.com apnews.com
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So far, looks like they've only pulled one of the turrets. Are we sure they are both going away?
 
MihoshiK said:
Unless you can claim with certainty that there's a turret in the shed on her deck it looks like both turrets are gone. All that's left of the aft turret is the non-rotating housing of the barrel.
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Oh, you're right. I mistakenly saw that as the turret itself. But you're correct that it is just the aft barrel enclosure. On second glance I see they have dropped in some sort of octagonal structure where the turret itself would have sat. (Or maybe that was under the turret originally? Hard to tell.)
 
TomS said:
Oh, you're right. I mistakenly saw that as the turret itself. But you're correct that it is just the aft barrel enclosure. On second glance I see they have dropped in some sort of octagonal structure where the turret itself would have sat. (Or maybe that was under the turret originally? Hard to tell.)
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I honestly think it's just a temporary cover they slapped over the hole.
 
The hull's been repainted and she just been loaded in the drydock, so they've likely finished the major structural work.

Edit just remembered the tubes are going forward, so the aft gun's likely just going to be blanked off for now
 
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Forest Green said:
www.twz.com

First Look At Stealth Destroyer's Hypersonic Missile Launchers

USS Zumwalt will pack a dozen long-range hypersonic missiles, but one of its Advanced Gun Systems still remains after the refit.
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A while back, I speculated on the possibility that both of the Zumwalt class DDGs' Advanced Gun System turrets could be removed and replaced with eight six- or seven-round Tomahawk launch canisters. As shared on The War Zone, a rendering on display at the Surface Navy Association symposium depicted a Zumwalt class ship with seven-round canisters loaded into at least two of the Advanced Payload Module launch tubes:
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As noted in The War Zone, each APM launch tube for the Zumwalt class ships has a diameter of 87 inches or 7.25 feet which is the same diameter as the Trident II launch tubes of the Ohio class SSBNs / SSGNs. Combined with the existing 80 cells of the Mk 57 Peripheral Vertical Launch System, each of the refitted Zumwalt class DDGs could hypothetically carry a total of 128 to 136 Tomahawks which is comparable to the Ticonderoga class CGs. With only AGS turret removed, each Zumwalt class DDG could still carry a total of 104 to 108 Tomahawks which is more than that of the Arleigh Burke class DDGs.
 
Christopher Wang said:
hypothetically carry a total of 128 to 136 Tomahawks which is comparable to the Ticonderoga class CG. With only AGS turret removed, each Zumwalt class DDG could still carry a total of 104 to 108 Tomahawks which is more than that of the Arleigh Burke class DDGs.
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Needs to be noted that the Ticonderoga class never did such thing, hell pretty sure the captain will suplex the idiot who suggest they do such.

The Ticos was at their heart a AA defense system, and as such always focus on those missiles. Most they ever likely loaded up was probably 48 tomahawks in a permissive strike. More likely 24 with the rest being for a mix of SMs and ASROCs. Ditto for the Burkes.

Those ships will never give up their primary job weapon load of SMs. Hell even the Zumwalt's was expected to carry mainly SMs as well since land strike was a tertially function for them.

The Only ships that carry their full VLS load as Tomahawks are the Ohios conversions and that cause they can hid.
 

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