Mind if we go back to this as well? Is there a possibility there really is an image of the YF-24 out there?
The only review on Tripadvisor is from someone complaining that they were refused entry. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Heater Heatley talks about buried aircraft at Groom Lake, OPSEC processes after a crashed aircraft event, an aircraft that was being used to transport the Delta Force Troopers 'lights-out' into Groom (not a C-130 he says) during rehearsals for Eagle Claw, and his cover story while flying the MiGs.
I don't know the source of the pictures, however, the aircraft in the pictures has the same lines and proportions to the Testor's XR-7 Thunder Dart with the engine pods removed. The model came out in 1993 and the photos surfaced in circa 2005. It is not difficult to fake an aircraft model in flight. When I was a kid I used to build models, place them on the middle of a large pane of glass with a dark sheet on the ground to eliminate ground reflections, and photograph the models from the ground looking up. I was amazed at how real the aircraft looked flying. I imagine a fishing line or some other technique was used to photograph the 'Aurora' model.
I know the pictures im fake, what I was asking for is in my previous comment, the 2002 USAF acknowledgement of 2 active black programs.
I should probably stay out of this, but mentioning JSF as white world triggered some painful memories. JSF itself was certainly white world but it was built on a long-running foundation that was anything but. If you trace it back, JSF had, at the time of the first contractor downselect, been referred to as JAST, Joint Advanced Strike Technologies. The purpose of JAST was to develop system technologies, generate requirements for nex-generation strike aircraft, and ultimately build a demonstrator vehicle. At the same time, in parallel, DARPA had its ASTOVL (Advanced Short Take Off Vertical Landing) technology exploration going, and eventually it was decided to merge the two programs into one, essentially adding STOVL features to what JAST was already doing. This was all well reported at the time, but the problem was that ASTOVL itself wasn't what it seemed to be, at least not in its later stages. The old JSF history site (since taken down but still available via Wayback) revealed that the conclusion of the first-phase ASTOVL studies had shown that in fact the required technologies wouldn't be available anytime soon, so in 1987 DARPA went to Skunk Works and began funding STOVL technologies secretly. ASTOVL itself from that point on became the cover story for those activities. Also in the mix was the STOVL Strike Fighter (SSF) which was evolved from unacknowledged work by Lockheed paid for by NASA Ames, and in fact it was Lockheed who, as a result of the SSF results, suggested a joint USAF/USN effort to develop a next-generation stealthy fighter. ASTOVL/SSF led to CALF (Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter) where ASTOVL and SSF were still different aircraft aimed at different customers, but that didn't last long, because it was clear that there wouldn't be enough money to fund entirely separate aircraft performing similar missions.
Well, not acknowledged another aircraft but rather the existence of 2 black projects, with the details unknown. Don't know if it's a random lie that has been going around of if it really happened.
You may be thinking about the Ministry of Defence (UK) 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region' report, available here.
It could just as well be the U-2, or at least one of the figures. Not totally sure why it'd be redacted, but it would fit it and doesn't seem to be mentioned in the other docs that I looked in. The other could be a global hawk, and the redactions could be to do with both being active recon aircraft, although the document is probably a little too early (2000) to mention the rq4. Also could be some sort of RAF aircraft that was redacted for whatever reason(s).
No, it isn't this one but ive seen this document before. This document was released to the public in 2006, the one im searching for was apparently released in 2002, but since not even the brilliant minds here can find it, im just going to assume said acknowledgement was fake all along. But thanks for the help.
Cool find! Definitely writing this on my notes. First the YF-113G, then the YF-24, YF-45D, and now the YF-220 and X-273, is there any other aircraft mentioned in AF bios that I am not aware of? This is my first time hearing about these 2 fellas. According to some quick research both designations were removed from his bio and are now referred to as "a
Let's say the 2 redacted images were not still unacknowledged aircraft like some believe, the 2 images could have been the RQ-3, P-175, and or MQ-1.
The senior citizen will not have anything to do with the sightings of the super V/STOL that were seen in Minnesota in the late 80s ??
No idea, I was working advanced Harriers (including supersonic Harrier III High End, a.k.a. Harrier 21) then ASTOVL and a tiny bit of SSF, then full-time JAST and JSF with A/F-X tossed in for variety. There were strict security barriers between programs that needed them. The Internet came into being during all this but not like it is now, so we pretty much only knew what we read in the magazines or picked up from presentations at conferences and conversations with counterparts at other companies and government agencies, who naturally wouldn't talk about sensitive programs.
Do you have the article? If so, please link it.
Depending on when exactly the YF-110 was flown, that could be a legit number.
If that’s the case I reckon it’s the hangar just to the east of the hangar you mentioned. There seems to be a lot going on at your location: lot’s of buildings, massive parking lot, lot’s of offices.
So we may possibly have 3 classified aircraft that were hinted at by Top Gun Maverick. First, the control stick which belonged to aircraft that took 2 flights. Then the rumoured aircraft whose seat may have been used the for Darkstar. Finally, the hint of something classified having to be moved because of filming.
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What sort of amazes me is that the SR 75 model kit came out before the Brilliant Buzzard sightings started to happen. It just so happens that theres an giant white plane with canards in the sky that looks like a model kit! Of course, that's if the sightings/shenanigans are believable in the first place.
