Artemis Moon Program

[phantomphan]

November 14th? That's three days after I turn 50.

Call me realistic, call me pessimistic but I bet it misses that launch date.

Realist is an optimist with experience . . . a pessimist is an realist with the same

 

[FighterJock]

I will say this. November 14th is a bit bold. But if they're able to launch it safe that would be great since we know that they have it rolled into the VAB. I just hope that they've done the necessary preparations and repairs for launch. Godspeed.

It will be a mad rush to get Artemis 1 ready and back to the launch pad then fuelled, tested and launched all by November the 14th. I think that it will be impossible to go on that date.

 

[Moose]

Y'all need to calm down about a NET date.

 

[Archibald]

November 14th is my wife birthday. SLS would be the ultimate candle / fireworks / light show LMAO.

 

[phantomphan]

November 14th is my wife birthday. SLS would be the ultimate candle / fireworks / light show LMAO.

Candle good; fireworks bad.

 

[NMaude]

November 14th is my wife birthday. SLS would be the ultimate candle / fireworks / light show LMAO.

Candle good; fireworks bad.

We don't want the SLS to turn into a high-tech Roman-candle on the launchpad .

 

[Conspirator]

November 14th is my wife birthday. SLS would be the ultimate candle / fireworks / light show LMAO.

Candle good; fireworks bad.

We don't want the SLS to turn into a high-tech Roman-candle on the launchpad .

unfortunately. that's not a roman candle. that's a giant stick of dynamite.(two actually) according to NASA and a few other sources i couldnt find any info on wether or not they de-stacked the SRB sections. and if they don't, the risk goes up.
does anyone else know anything about whats going on inside the VAB?

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1580597792707182602

View: https://twitter.com/nasagroundsys/status/1580597792707182602

On Oct. 12, teams replaced ICPS batteries and powered up @NASA_Orion for battery charging and to load flight software. Work is on track for @NASA_SLS to roll out of the VAB on Nov. 4 for our next #Artemis I launch attempt on Nov. 14 at 12:07 a.m. EDT.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1580930219183308802

View: https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1580930219183308802

SLS Artemis I rollout currently tracking November 5, pending Flight Termination System (FTS) battery changeouts, which are ongoing this week.

Artemis news:
nasaspaceflight.com/news/artemis/

 

[TomS]

i couldnt find any info on wether or not they de-stacked the SRB sections. and if they don't, the risk goes up.

Given how long it took to stack the SLS boosters in the first place, I can guarantee they are not destacking and restacking them ahead of this launch attempt. But the increased risk is incremental (and likely very small) -- it's not like there is a switch that flips at x months and the boosters are suddenly guaranteed to explode on launch.

 

[Conspirator]

i couldnt find any info on wether or not they de-stacked the SRB sections. and if they don't, the risk goes up.

Given how long it took to stack the SLS boosters in the first place, I can guarantee they are not destacking and restacking them ahead of this launch attempt. But the increased risk is incremental (and likely very small) -- it's not like there is a switch that flips at x months and the boosters are suddenly guaranteed to explode on launch.

i fully understand that. it may be a "small, incremental risk." but it's still a risk. (ex. Challenger, Columbia, Apollo 1, Apollo 13) and we can't change that. all we can do is hope the risk assessment team is correct and ARTEMIS can take off without issiues.

 

[phantomphan]

If nothing else, they will find out what the time limit is on keeping the SRB stacked . . . or not

 

[FighterJock]

If nothing else, they will find out what the time limit is on keeping the SRB stacked . . . or not

And what about the infamous o-rings that separate the different sections of the SRB's? Would they have to be replaced as well as the sections, because I do not want a repeat of the Challenger disaster again.

 

[Conspirator]

If nothing else, they will find out what the time limit is on keeping the SRB stacked . . . or not

And what about the infamous o-rings that separate the different sections of the SRB's? Would they have to be replaced as well as the sections, because I do not want a repeat of the Challenger disaster again.

my point exactly.

 

[TomS]

If nothing else, they will find out what the time limit is on keeping the SRB stacked . . . or not

And what about the infamous o-rings that separate the different sections of the SRB's? Would they have to be replaced as well as the sections, because I do not want a repeat of the Challenger disaster again.

The whole segment joint with the O-rings was redesigned after Challenger anyway. And the failure then wasn't age, it was launch temps.

 

[FighterJock]

If nothing else, they will find out what the time limit is on keeping the SRB stacked . . . or not

And what about the infamous o-rings that separate the different sections of the SRB's? Would they have to be replaced as well as the sections, because I do not want a repeat of the Challenger disaster again.

The whole segment joint with the O-rings was redesigned after Challenger anyway. And the failure then wasn't age, it was launch temps.

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And that is what is bothering me about the O-rings as well. If the November 14th launch is scrubbed yet again due to unforeseen issues then that will force NASA to move the launch into next year because they have never launched any rocket during the winter due to the Challenger disaster.

 

[Flyaway]

Webcast link for the 14th is up already:

View: https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

 

[FighterJock]

Webcast link for the 14th is up already:

View: https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

Looks like NASA will launch Artemis 1 on the 14th November after all. Let's see if they have sorted all the issues out that were causing the previous launch attempts to be scrubbed.

 

[sferrin]

Webcast link for the 14th is up already:

View: https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

Looks like NASA will launch Artemis 1 on the 14th November after all. Let's see if they have sorted all the issues out that were causing the previous launch attempts to be scrubbed.

I'm not holding my breath.

 

[NMaude]

I'm not holding my breath.

I'm keeping my expectations low so as to not be disappointed if it's scrubbed again.

On another note I've seen it mentioned on another board and I agree that Artemis I'd SRBs should've been equipped with recovery parachutes so that once they've burnout and separated they could be recovered to be inspected.

 

[Grey Havoc]

That would be too logical for the present era, alas...

 

[Conspirator]

I'm not holding my breath.

I'm keeping my expectations low so as to not be disappointed if it's scrubbed again.

On another note I've seen it mentioned on another board and I agree that Artemis I'd SRBs should've been equipped with recovery parachutes so that once they've burnout and separated they could be recovered to be inspected.

well..... where could we put the equipment for that? the nose cone is taken up by the jettison boosters..... the older models did have chutes. (shuttle program) why couldn't they do that now? weight?

 

[NMaude]

the older models did have chutes. (shuttle program) why couldn't they do that now? weight?

I'm sure they could add the parachute recovery system to the SRBs and still have performance to spare, but seriously NASA should've set up Artemis I's SRBs to be recovered after they separated so that they could examine them for any defects, Artemis I qualifies as an SRB test-flight. Remember that the Shuttle's STS-1 flight was the definitive test-flight including the SRBs first flight-test.

 

[Conspirator]

the older models did have chutes. (shuttle program) why couldn't they do that now? weight?

I'm sure they could add the parachute recovery system to the SRBs and still have performance to spare, but seriously NASA should've set up Artemis I'd SRBs to be recovered after they separated so that they could examine them for any defects, Artemis I qualifies as an SRB test-flight. Remember that the Shuttle's STS-1 flight was the definitive test-flight including the SRBs first flight-test.

100% agreed. i wish there was a way to get into the press to ask them that question during the pre-flight interview.

 

[Flyaway]

Webcast link for the 14th is up already:

View: https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

Looks like NASA will launch Artemis 1 on the 14th November after all. Let's see if they have sorted all the issues out that were causing the previous launch attempts to be scrubbed.

I'm not holding my breath.

One of the most knowledgable posters on NSF said they expected December to be the most likely month for it to launch, and it’s looking more likely as time goes on that their prediction might well be correct.

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583622931464142848

View: https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1583622931464142848

Ready for @NASA to begin humanity’s return to the Moon on November 14? Meet me at midnight.

Okay, fine. #Artemis I is scheduled to launch at 12:07 a.m. EST, but you get the point.

 

[FighterJock]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583622931464142848

View: https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1583622931464142848

Ready for @NASA to begin humanity’s return to the Moon on November 14? Meet me at midnight.

Okay, fine. #Artemis I is scheduled to launch at 12:07 a.m. EST, but you get the point.

I did not think that NASA would launch Artemis 1 at midnight EST, that would make it an early morning launch UK time.

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583622931464142848

View: https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1583622931464142848

Ready for @NASA to begin humanity’s return to the Moon on November 14? Meet me at midnight.

Okay, fine. #Artemis I is scheduled to launch at 12:07 a.m. EST, but you get the point.

I did not think that NASA would launch Artemis 1 at midnight EST, that would make it an early morning launch UK time.

I wouldn’t worry to much as there’s probably only a small percentage chance it will actually launch on that date.

 

[TomS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583622931464142848

View: https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1583622931464142848

Ready for @NASA to begin humanity’s return to the Moon on November 14? Meet me at midnight.

Okay, fine. #Artemis I is scheduled to launch at 12:07 a.m. EST, but you get the point.

I did not think that NASA would launch Artemis 1 at midnight EST, that would make it an early morning launch UK time.

Orbital mechanics don't care what time it is for puny humans. The launch window is what it is.

 

[FighterJock]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583622931464142848

View: https://twitter.com/senbillnelson/status/1583622931464142848

Ready for @NASA to begin humanity’s return to the Moon on November 14? Meet me at midnight.

Okay, fine. #Artemis I is scheduled to launch at 12:07 a.m. EST, but you get the point.

I did not think that NASA would launch Artemis 1 at midnight EST, that would make it an early morning launch UK time.

Orbital mechanics don't care what time it is for puny humans. The launch window is what it is.

Looks like I will need to set my alarm then. I am not one for getting up at 05:00, fingers and toes crossed that the launch will be a success this time round.

 

[Kat Tsun]

please delay it a week so it can launch on my birthday mr. nasa

 

[Archibald]

Nah, keep it on November 14, it is my wife birthday. "Light this candle" and this will be one hell of a candle.

 

[NMaude]

"Ligth this candle" and this will be one hell of a candle.

Let's hope it doesn't turn into a Roman candle on the launchpad.

 

[FighterJock]

"Ligth this candle" and this will be one hell of a candle.

Let's hope it doesn't turn into a Roman candle on the launchpad.

If it does it will be the largest explosion in spaceflight history since the giant Soviet era N-1 rocket blew up, so let’s see what happens when NASA launches it this time round.

 

[Conspirator]

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"Ligth this candle" and this will be one hell of a candle.

Let's hope it doesn't turn into a Roman candle on the launchpad.

If it does it will be the largest explosion in spaceflight history since the giant Soviet era N-1 rocket blew up, so let’s see what happens when NASA launches it this time round.

that is very reassuring FighterJock. i really, really hope that it doesn't happen. i hope that NASAs risk assessment team is correct and we can get a successful lift off. its been a while since us Americans have done a big mission like this. so we might be a bit rusty.

 

[FighterJock]

that

"Ligth this candle" and this will be one hell of a candle.

Let's hope it doesn't turn into a Roman candle on the launchpad.

If it does it will be the largest explosion in spaceflight history since the giant Soviet era N-1 rocket blew up, so let’s see what happens when NASA launches it this time round.

that is very reassuring FighterJock. i really, really hope that it doesn't happen. i hope that NASAs risk assessment team is correct and we can get a successful lift off. its been a while since us Americans have done a big mission like this. so we might be a bit rusty.

Same here Conspirator, but you can never tell with spaceflight being what it is these days. Let’s all wish that Artemis 1 launch is successful and that we can get Astronauts to the Moon as soon as possible.

 

[Grey Havoc]

SpaceX, Boeing and Lockheed Prepare Future Hardware for NASA’s Artemis Moon Program

NASA is planning to launch the first Artemis mission next month but is working with companies to get vehicles in place for other flights.

www.wsj.com

 

[NMaude]

NASA's Marshal Spaceflight Centre has just put out this short video on the testing done so far:

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584638935225044996

View: https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1584638935225044996

The Nov. 12-27 launch period for Artemis I may be shorter than it appears. NASA currently targeting Nov. 14. Nov. 20 and 21 not available, and due to Holiday Airspace Release Plan, it's possible the Florida range may close from Nov. 22-27 for air travel. So maybe just Nov. 14-19?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584907519125774337

View: https://twitter.com/nasagroundsys/status/1584907519125774337

Vehicle Assembly Building High Bay 3 platforms A, H, J, and K have been retracted in preparation for roll to Launch Pad 39B for #Artemis I. Platforms B, C, D, E, and G will be retracted this week, and F will be retracted last, after final FTS testing is completed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585282324740071424

View: https://twitter.com/nasagroundsys/status/1585282324740071424

Platforms E and B were retracted yesterday, C this morning. D later today, leaving only F & G left. @NASA_Orion got through all power up ops yesterday – and hatch closed.
Still targeting Nov. 4 for roll out of @NASA_SLS, and Nov. 14 as the earliest date for launching #Artemis I.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585693134821916710

View: https://twitter.com/nasagroundsys/status/1585693134821916710

All VAB platforms are now retracted except for G, which will be retracted tomorrow afternoon/evening and F, which will be next week.
Flight Termination System (FTS) testing is on track to happen soon.
Crawler-transporter 2 is set to move into position at the VAB on Monday.

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585707469300432896

View: https://twitter.com/stephenclark1/status/1585707469300432896

NASA's Jeremy Parsons at #VonBraun2022 says the agency is looking at a fourth launch attempt in the November launch period for Artemis 1, likely around Nov. 25 (day after Thanksgiving). This would require coordination with the FAA for airspace around the Thanksgiving holiday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585707661198229505

View: https://twitter.com/stephenclark1/status/1585707661198229505

The first three Artemis 1 launch opportunities identified in November are Nov. 14, 16, and 19. Rollout of the SLS to the pad remains scheduled for Nov. 4.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585707236730425344

View: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1585707236730425344

Parsons and John Honeycutt also confirm that the flight termination system waivers they secured in September to extend its use were one-time, but thinking about options for a more permanent change. #VonBraun2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585710821753004032

View: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1585710821753004032

Northrop Grumman’s Doug Hurley says the solid rocket boosters should be good for “several” more launch periods before they would want to examine the motors (which

 

[Flyaway]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1586138342739292160

View: https://twitter.com/nasagroundsys/status/1586138342739292160

Platform F is now the only platform left surrounding @NASA_SLS and @NASA_Orion in the Vehicle Assembly Building at @NASAKennedy. The vehicle is undergoing final preparations for its roll out to Pad 39B, for a launch to the Moon on #Artemis I, as early as Nov. 14.