Aircraft - Real or fake?

[hesham]

Hi,


was that project real or fake,BV P.224 ?.


http://modelingmadness.com/scott/axis/luft/p224preview.htm

 

[Maveric]

Fake!

 

[hesham]

Gentlemen,

the aircraft is the MiG LMFS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_LMFS

Information available from Paralay web and just for subscribers at globalsecurity

Still un-solving mystery,also from Russian site;

http://alldrawings.ru/risunki/item/samolet-mig-1-27-project-chertezhi-gabarity-risunki

 

[CxxTxx]

Hi, I think this SST was a fake, am I right ?.

That's from Jonny Quest, you can see the "Q" on the stand, and it appears in the credits.

 

[flateric]

Gentlemen,

the aircraft is the MiG LMFS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_LMFS

Information available from Paralay web and just for subscribers at globalsecurity

Still un-solving mystery,also from Russian site;

http://alldrawings.ru/risunki/item/samolet-mig-1-27-project-chertezhi-gabarity-risunki

Thats KB Paralay

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Flateric,


and also many thanks to CxxTxx.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


was this idea transfer into a real aircraft,or just fake one ?.

 

[Stargazer]

was this idea transfer into a real aircraft,or just fake one ?.

Source?

 

[hesham]

Source?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?17-The-Ongoing-Mystery-Aircraft-Thread-Part-Deux/page358

 

[Stargazer]

Source?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?17-The-Ongoing-Mystery-Aircraft-Thread-Part-Deux/page358

See, hesham? Here's a very precise example here of not being able to use a simple online resource properly. If you'd looked at the posts immediately after that one, you'd have found that it depicts a real type, not a project...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?17-The-Ongoing-Mystery-Aircraft-Thread-Part-Deux/page359

Here's some more info about it: this was the Hennesy Monoplane, built by Gerald C. Hennesy (from Washington, DC). Note that it must not be mistaken for the Hennessey OX-5 Monoplane, built by Californian James R. Hennessey (note different spelling).

 

[hesham]

Thank you Skyblazer.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


was that Polish PWS-34 Chart aircraft a real project or fake ?.


http://alternathistory.org.ua/polskii-whirlwind-alternativnyi-mobilizatsionnyi-istrebitel-pws-34-chart-polsha

 

[Arjen]

It's a drawing of what a single-seat emergency fighter variant of the PWS-33 Wyżeł would look like.
In my opinion, going by what google-translate makes of the accompanying text - it's pure speculation.

PWS-33 Wyżeł was a trainer aircraft, only prototypes were built.
Wiki description here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWS-33_Wy%C5%BCe%C5%82

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Arjen.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a Hypersonic project,but I don't know it became a real project or just a hypothetical
design ?.


Research Planes

 

[hesham]

here is a Hypersonic project,but I don't know it became a real project or just a hypothetical
design ?.

Research Planes

From the same source,


anther Hypersonic project,but really became a design or not ?.

 

[papacavy]

The PWS-34 is a cool design, but truly a fake. A very clever fake, though. To me, its a pleasing design and I wish that the Poles could have developed their pre-invasion aircraft projects further. A Polish Air Force that lasted until 1941-42? An interesting what-if.

 

[hesham]

Thank you Papacavy.

 

[Orionblamblam]

From the same source,


anther Hypersonic project,but really became a design or not ?.

A real Lockheed design.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Scott.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


was this a real spaceship project or not ?,the paragraph is not clear.

 

[starviking]

Hi,

was this a real spaceship project or not ?,the paragraph is not clear.

I'd guess fake - I can't see those inlets being much use in atmosphere, and in take-off the drag would be horrendous. Pressure stresses would probably rip it apart on ascent, and if by some miracle it made orbit... re-entry would be waiting to finish it off.

 

[Jemiba]

The idea was, that this vehicle should take off with a weight of about 2000 tons and, while still flying through the
atmosphere, it should suck in air and turn it into LOX, using big chillers. That's why it is called "flying fridge".
Before leaving the atmosphere, weight should have risen to about 4000 tons ! Take-off via solid fuel rockets,
switching to ramjets and then to liquid fueled rocket engines, using the "collected" LOX.
The book "Zukunftsträume von gestern, heute und übermorgen" (Yesterdays, todays and the day after tommorrow's
dreams of the future) by Tommy Laeng brings lots of such "ideas", which were popular in the '60s.
( https://books.google.de/books?id=qa8UMf8Qf8gC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de#v=onepage&q&f=false )
Wouldn't call it projects ...

 

[starviking]

Wow! So it's an artist's impression of a LACE spaceplane?

 

[Jemiba]

As I understand the LACE concept, the compressed air is used up in the engine at once ?
Here, it should just be stored for later use in space.

 

[hesham]

Excellent my dear Jemiba.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


what was this,an early model for real project or just a hypothetical aircraft ?.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


that's a RC Model for flying disc aircraft as I know ?,but I saw a drawing to a flying disc
aircraft very similar to this one from long time ago,is it a real design ?.


http://rc-aviation.ru/forum/topic?id=1407

 

[Michel Van]

Hi,


that's a RC Model for flying disc aircraft as I know ?,but I saw a drawing to a flying disc
aircraft very similar to this one from long time ago,is it a real design ?.


http://rc-aviation.ru/forum/topic?id=1407

Me too
i think i saw this in 1980s
and if i remember well also saw similar picture in this very form
but not were i see it here...

 

[hesham]

That's right my dear Michel,


something looks like this;


http://www.aerobataviation.com/gallery/Geobat/Planned+Projects

 

[hesham]

Hi,


also here is a drawing to a glider,I think it was powered by rocket engine,was it a real design
or just a Model ?,specially I saw a look like it,maybe from Russian !.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

does this draft for a glider transfer into a real design or not ?.

http://tehno-science.ru/izobreteniya-1002.html

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Hi Hesham -

That bears a lot of similarity to the Genesis 2 sailplane which did go into production.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Granit]

Hi,

does this draft for a glider transfer into a real design or not ?.

Only idea.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dears Mark and Granit.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


I swear that,I saw something like this FSW or tailless glider aircraft,who agree with me ?,so
was this drawing a real design or not ?.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


was that a real design to Raumgleiter or not ?.

 

[Jemiba]

The text roughly says :
"... A reusable space shuttle, a hybrid of rocket and aircraft, would reduce
costs to about a tenth of the current costs. Launched with rocket boosters,
one half of the combination for example could be used for take-off, while the
other one goes on ..."
No mention of a real project. BTW, knowing the source could ease finding the
answer.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Jemiba,


and here is the source;


http://www.autoex.kz/node/5

 

[Jemiba]

You can find more from the oeuvre of that artist, Klaus Bürgle, here:
http://www.retro-futurismus.de/buergle_weltraum2.htm
Some are clearly based on real projects, others just illustrating ideas,
that were en vogue back then. Nice to see them again, they were floating
through my favourite mags and books, when I was young !