Indeed. Who would have believed that the same helicopter would be used to evacuate the embassies of both Saigon and Kabul, nearly fifty years apart?
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Indeed. Who would have believed that the same helicopter would be used to evacuate the embassies of both Saigon and Kabul, nearly fifty years apart?
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Afghanistan: Life in Kabul after the Taliban victory
BBC video journalist Malik Mudassir speaks about life in the city after its capture by the Taliban.
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Belgium to send military planes to Kabul for evacuation - Belga
Belgium will send military planes to Kabul to evacuate Belgian citizens and Afghan staff, news agency Belga reported on Monday.
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U.N. Security Council pushes for talks to form new Afghan government
The U.N. Security Council on Monday called for talks to create a new government in Afghanistan and an end to fighting and abuse after U.N. chief Antonio Guterres warned of "chilling" curbs on human rights and mounting violations against women and girls.
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Russia says it has set up contacts with new Afghan authorities to secure its embassy
Russia has set up working contacts with representatives of the new authorities in Afghanistan to ensure the safety of the Russian embassy in Kabul, the foreign ministry said on Monday.
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Joe Biden: 'I stand squarely behind' US withdrawal
Joe Biden on Monday defended his decision to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan in a defiant address to the American people from the White House.
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Apparently the State Department still operates a number of CH-46Es with support from the USMC, which are also being used in the evacuation.
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'I'm scared I'll be raped and killed': Afghanistan's female soldiers fear for their lives
Women who joined the Afghan National Army amid a western backed campaign now fear the Taliban will kill or rape them for being soldiers
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Who betrayed anybody? I'm sure someone had a list of those who helped the U.S. and a plan to get them out. After the Russians left Afghanistan, what was the world's reaction? Now all they need is a lot more airlift capability.
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The Saigon parallel provides false reassurance over Afghanistan - there's no Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings
Biden looks more like Brezhnev - the elderly, ailing and incoherent Soviet leader whose hand was a deadweight on the Kremlin’s tiller
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Joe Biden walked into this foreign policy disaster with his eyes open
The claim America's catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan simply followed an agreement inherited from Trump is nonsensical
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The words "catastrophic withdrawal" tells me all I need to know about the credibility of the source. Forget the President. U.S. intelligence had no idea this would happen? Unlike the President, they are shielded by the walls of the Pentagon and "national security."
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Taliban are fairly shrewd pragmatists. Abstract ideological concerns are a rich man's luxury.
So long as the Chinese don't abduct Pashtuns or commence military adventures in Afghanistan, the Taliban don't care too much what they do in their own lands. Since China and Pakistan are pretty good pals, and Russia and China have at least tacitly agreed that they face mutual foes, they shouldn't need to do that. And as long as the Taliban keep any Uighur radical or fellow travelers from interfering in Xinjiang, they shouldn't give the Chinese reason to waltz in and wreck the place (although the PRC would likely do just that, and not bother staying).
The PRC is just buttering them up to get at the lithium ores under Afghanistan's lakes and build railroads for OBOR though.
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The US had literally hundreds of aircraft participating in the evacuation from Saigon. Three battalion landing teams, two super carriers, and their associated escorts, and dozens of helicopter carriers.
It's hardly a surprise that one or two of these things would show up again in another evacuation. That said BuNo 154038 was never part of Frequent Wind. This is just a blind person's interpretation of a blurry photograph. The BuNo of the ship on Hancock is clearly 154030 to anyone who can look at it.
In '72 BuNo 154038 was transferred to MARTDS (Marine Corps Air Reserve Training Detachment) New Orleans and likely never saw combat again until the State Department bought it.
Nah. BuNo 154030 was part of HMM-165 deployed on Hancock with the 2/4, 1/9, and 3/9 Marines and MAG-39.
Joe Baugher's webpage says that 154030 was written off on Dec. 19, 1980. Probably crashed in a training accident.
I'm willing to trust some old Web 1.0 web page more than I am some apparently blind or innumerate Twitterati dude.
That sort of poetic happenstance only happens in movies lol.
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Joe Biden isolated and under fire as Afghanistan falls to Taliban
US president draws criticism for ‘hiding’ at his Camp David retreat following his shambolic handling of the US withdrawal
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I have a suggestion for a helicopter they can use to extract him from Camp David...Joe Biden isolated and under fire as Afghanistan falls to Taliban
US president draws criticism for ‘hiding’ at his Camp David retreat following his shambolic handling of the US withdrawal
Joe Biden isolated and under fire as Afghanistan falls to Taliban
US president draws criticism for ‘hiding’ at his Camp David retreat following his shambolic handling of the US withdrawal
Try that at the Pentagon and those assigned to Afghanistan operations over the last 20 years.
Probably a film in that, with Tom cruise and Tom hanks as the crew brought back to service…..
You have to wonder... Where all those bodily fit men were when the bad guys made their way in?
I hope that all Afghan female soldiers could be prioritized for their resettlement.
Then...
But let's not forget that beyond the waste and the ugly civilization theories from so many international experts, kids and teen did grew-up in a westernized world with aspirational dreams for freedom and prosperity. Let's not take it here from their hands and forget.
I hope that all Afghan female soldiers could be prioritized for their resettlement.
Then...
But let's not forget that beyond the waste and the ugly civilization theories from so many international experts, kids and teen did grew-up in a westernized world with aspirational dreams for freedom and prosperity. Let's not take it here from their hands and forget.
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Sometimes I think the PRC presently has
a) the colossal financial / economic resources of America
b) the cold ruthlessness of Brezhnev USSR
+ c) nearly infinite number of young men and women in the 18-48 years bracket (800 million ? 1 billion ?)
...to teach the Afghans a good lesson, once and for all. Succeeding where the British empire, USSR and the USA failed.
Then again, maybe not: in 1979 they failed to break the Vietnamese - after the Americans and French also failed.
Lesson of the day: even if you're a superpower, don't you ever pick a fight with two nations on goddam planet Earth
a) the Afghans
b) the Vietnamese
From their mountains or from their jungle, they can resist nearly an eternity.
Food for thought...
Quiet, you.
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Or the transfer before. Or did you conveniently forget the rioting in Washington when Hillary lost? I'll bet we don't see four years of made up conspiracies and kangaroo courts in Afghanistan either.
Dying, is where they were.
Afghan security forces have lost close to 50k dead since 2014. Adjust that for US population size. That is like half a million battlefield casualties.
The notion that their men just suddenly quit is asinine.
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..... the part where the scientists inject themselves with covid to get past the zombies perhaps. It might catch on in parts of the world that the vaccination has not.
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Wow, Saddam air force 2.0
22 planes and 24 helicpters have fled to Uzbekistan. An Embraer 314 and a MiG-29 collided and crashed during escort.
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Apparently there were orders not to engage and to cease hostilities.
Hmmm... so maybe it went like this?
Unnamed source: "Well, when we first went in it was set to be over in months."
What did people tell the President when it went longer?
"We told him we still had a little clean-up left to do."
How about 5 or 10 years later?
"Well, we briefed him whenever it was relevant."
And how often was it relevant?
"At first, every 4 to 6 months. Then it was every year or so."
Unnamed source: "Well, when we first went in it was set to be over in months."
What did people tell the President when it went longer?
"We told him we still had a little clean-up left to do."
How about 5 or 10 years later?
"Well, we briefed him whenever it was relevant."
And how often was it relevant?
"At first, every 4 to 6 months. Then it was every year or so."
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German evacuation flight can't land in Kabul, diverts to Tashkent
The first of three German evacuation planes en route to Afghanistan has diverted to the Uzbek capital Tashkent after it could not land at Kabul airport, a German general said on Monday.
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Man who worked on German army base seeks escape from Afghanistan
An Afghan man who worked at the German army base in Mazar-i-Sharif on Monday described his fear of retaliation from Taliban insurgents if he and his family were not lifted out of Kabul where they are hiding.
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Merkel warns of crisis if Afghans fleeing Taliban not supported
Germany and other western countries should provide aid to countries neighbouring Afghanistan to help them deal with an influx of Afghans fleeing the Taliban or risk a repeat of the 2015 migrant crisis, Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Monday.
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I somehow doubt that there was that level of planning. I would be happy if I was proved wrong though.
In any case, I wonder if the USAF would dare risk any of its remaining C-5s now under the current circumstances.
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U.N. Security Council pushes for talks to form new Afghan government
The U.N. Security Council on Monday called for talks to create a new government in Afghanistan and an end to fighting and abuse after U.N. chief Antonio Guterres warned of "chilling" curbs on human rights and mounting violations against women and girls.
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China's foreign minister slams 'hurried' U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Monday that the hasty pullout of U.S. troops from Afghanistan had a "serious negative impact,"but pledged to work with Washington to promote stability in the country.
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France's Macron urges UN to act with single voice on Afghanistan
Islamist militants will seek to benefit from the turmoil in Afghanistan, said French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday, adding that France would do all it could to ensure Russia, the United States and Europe responded with a common purpose.
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