Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War

[Stargazer]

I believe the so-called "Tu-200" was a completely bogus Tupolev project resulting from misinterpretation of Soviet information by the West.

 

[blackkite]

Thansk a lot. Who made up this sinful project? ;D


TuG-75 source : Flying Magazine December 1951

 

[flateric]

I thought we still have search function working well at the forum...

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,275.msg197442.html#msg197442

 

[blackkite]

Flying magazine December 1951.

Flying Magazine

books.google.co.jp

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the MiG-25 & MiG-23 from 1967,an artist drawings.

Советские самолеты А.С.Яковлев 1979

 

[flateric]

These are not 'artist drawings', but heavily retouched photos from Domodedovo air parade.

 

[hesham]

Also from "Avión" but from March 1956 issue.

This is an hypotetical nuclear powered bomber

Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19551010/28/2

 

[flateric]

...

 

[frank]

I was fumbling around at lunch today and came across this post. Every time a see reference to tis supposed project, I think of the Chinese J-9.

Service testing of a new single seat single engine fighter with double delta (a la Viggen) wing, closely resembling the "Faithless", intended as the MiG-21 successor.

Air International October 1974

 

[Hood]

Don't think this one has been shown in this thread before.
Another MiG-31 misidentification, this time as a MiG-225 with VG wings from the early 1980s.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7291

 

[frank]

There is a pic of a model of this 3-view in another thread on the MiG-31, IIRC, here on SPF.

 

[hesham]

Don't think this one has been shown in this thread before.
Another MiG-31 misidentification, this time as a MiG-225 with VG wings from the early 1980s.

http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7291

Nice find my dear Hood,and we can put it here.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala/L'Ala%201948%2007.pdf

[LINK IS DEAD]

Source: "L'Ala" 1948 07 (July)

 

[hesham]

Please note drawing No.8;

http://www.avia-it.com/act/bibliote...ste/Ala d'Italia/L'ALA D'ITALIA 1951 01-2.pdf [LINK IS DEAD]

Source: "L'Ala d'Italia" 1951 01-2 (Jan/Feb)

 

[hesham]

Hi,

ДВИГАТЕЛИ КОСМИЧЕСКИХ КОРАБЛЕЙ / Путешествия в космос

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Please note pictures No 1 & 6.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF Riviste/Ala d'Italia/L'ALA D'ITALIA 1952 012.pdf [LINK IS DEAD]


Source: L'ALA D'ITALIA 1952 01-2 (Jan/Feb)

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://www.avia-it.com/act/bibliote...ste/Ala d'Italia/L'ALA D'ITALIA 1954 04-5.pdf [LINK IS DEAD]

Source: L'Ala D'Italia 1954 04-5

 

[hesham]

From JAWA 1985.

 

[Silencer1]

Better quality pictures to supplement Reply #151 of this topic:

Spread from 1955' issue of Air Trails magazine (source http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/magazines/air-trails/air-progress-soviet-air-force-mar-1955-air-trails.htm), drawings by Douglas Rolfe.

Looking on the represented types, I wonder, how it's possible to draw them so inaccurate: Jak-23 didn't have any visible airscoop in front, MiG-15bis have two engines etc?

This has been just popular magazine of youngsters, as far as I understand. But did another, more professional books or magazines of this period, similarly incorrect?

Anyway, Doug Rolfe drawings have been a good example of style - both aircraft and cars. Just check http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/index.htm - "Vintage magazines" section

 

[Dynoman]

Found at whatifmodelers. I don't know if these were serious artist concepts of supersonic Soviet bombers or not. Originated from Avpro(?)

 

[Hood]

I believe they were Myasishchev M-20 studies, part of the evolution that lead to the Tu-160.
Not really sure why Avpro drew these, or what their aim was in general!

 

[Silencer1]

Quad-packaged jets looks quite unusual, aren't they?

 

[flateric]

I believe they were Myasishchev M-20 studies, part of the evolution that lead to the Tu-160.
Not really sure why Avpro drew these, or what their aim was in general!

Yes, this is one of M-20 variants.

 

[Silencer1]

Yes, this is one M-20 variants.

Curiously, Google search-by-image immediately suggest, that this is M-20.
There have been plenty of projects' versions: https://testpilot.ru/russia/myasishchev/m/20/m20_1.htm

 

[borovik]

Yes, this is one M-20 variants.

 

[hesham]

were is the Soviet responding to NAA X-15,speculative design of course.

http://www.oltreilcielo.it/pic/1960/sv133-006.jpg

Source: Article in "Scienza e Vita" n.133 February 1960

 

[TsrJoe]

an interesting design, not one I recall seeing previously, do you know if it had any basis in reality or merely a speculative exercise assuming a Soviet X.15 equivalent ?

cheers, Joe

 

[hesham]

A twin fuselage missile launcher aircraft.

Source: Oltre il Cielo 1959 01

 

[hesham]

Source: Oltre il Cielo 1959 05

 

[hesham]

From Cielo 1953 12

 

[hesham]

From Cielo 1954 1.

 

[hesham]

From Ali Nouva 2/1952.

 

[hesham]

From Aero Journal 6-7/1999,

 

[TsrJoe]

John Forbat's, TSR2 precision attack to Tornado, has an interesting Vickers design for a possible Soviet M3 bomber with stand off missiles ! hmm are there any other examples of such 'official' future planning adversary designs ? the GD. Mig2000 comes to mind ?

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1963.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1963,

here is early idea for how Tupolev Tu-91 will look.

 

[hesham]

Here is a hypothetical Soviet design,for atomic airplane,but sorry,the page doesn't open ?;

https://www.amazon.com/Soviet-Powered-Transport-Aviation-WirePhoto/dp/B0772YQJHH

 

[Alexandre Julião]

I love this thread! Congratulations to everyone who has contributed to it for so long. But, how about the other way around? Is there such a thing as eastern artists' concepts of American (or NATO) aircraft during the Cold War? I suppose so, but how much of it ended up being available to the general public after the end of the Cold War, is what I wonder.

 

[Aubi]

Easterners knew the Western aircraft thanks to the same source Westerners knew the Eastern aircraft (and often Easterners knew Eastern aircraft). Jane's. Seriously, magazines like Letectví + Kosmonautika often sourced articles about new Soviet projects directly from Jane's and similar publications. While L+K published a lot of concepts of Western aircraft, it was almost always copied from some Western source. I saw several articles where L+K used only NATO code for some Soviet aircraft, because they didn't have better sources than Western publications. West was simply much more open.

 

[TsrJoe]

one of my favourites from 1986 ...