Vought JTACMS/ATACMS (MGM-140)

Ok, call me uninformed…are new ATACMS being built or are we talking about regraining existing missiles? I had thought ATACMS went out of production. But I drink a lot.
 
Josh_TN said:
Ok, call me uninformed…are new ATACMS being built or are we talking about regraining existing missiles? I had thought ATACMS went out of production. But I drink a lot.
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I was under the impression that it's both. Still building a few of the long range versions, and regraining the M39s. Though with Ukraine finally being approved for ATACMS, there's a lot less of the old rockets left to regrain.
 
NMaude said:
Not surprising at all given that the Russians are enthusiastic users of cluster-munitions with a callous disregard for civilian collateral damage.
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Well that and it turns out?

They Work extremely frwaking well when use properly on the battlefield against soft to meduim armor targets. Especially against trenches and like...
 
Wreckage of an ATACMS missile in the vicinity of Lugansk airport as reported by Russian websites. Russian sources claim that three ATACMS were intercepted in total.

Source: https://ria.ru/20240719/lugansk-1960640369.html

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yahya said:
Wreckage of an ATACMS missile in the vicinity of Lugansk airport as reported by Russian websites. Russian sources claim that three ATACMS were intercepted in total.

Source: https://ria.ru/20240719/lugansk-1960640369.html

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LOL That's the spent booster with a nozzle sitting next to it. The payload already deployed. I can't believe they keep trying to sell these as kills.
 
Firefinder said:
Also isnt the S300 types explosive killers and not Kinetic Killers like the Pac3s?
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As far as I know the SA-10/12/20/21 interceptor missiles use blast fragmentation warheads, as for the PAC3 it functions as a Hittile when intercepting missiles but interception aircraft it has a warhead of sorts called the kill enhancement device or something to that effect. The PAC3 "Warhead" is a small explosive charge wrapped by preformed Tungsten-fragments IIRC.
 
Guys, what could be a feasible tactical tool which Russia could use to intercept the ATACMS? Buk M3? Tor M2? A more recent Pantsir?
 
yahya said:
Guys, what could be a feasible tactical tool which Russia could use to intercept the ATACMS? Buk M3? Tor M2? A more recent Pantsir?
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Not sure either of those system work against BMs, only S-300/S-400/S-500s really (and S-350 now). Using 'work' in the loosest possible terms.

Buk-M3 still uses SARH, never heard of BM interception using SARH, not without a nuclear warhead anyway. Tor-M2 uses RFCLOS, which isn't really great for anything.
 
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NMaude said:
As far as I know the SA-10/12/20/21 interceptor missiles use blast fragmentation warheads, as for the PAC3 it functions as a Hittile when intercepting missiles but interception aircraft it has a warhead of sorts called the kill enhancement device or something to that effect. The PAC3 "Warhead" is a small explosive charge wrapped by preformed Tungsten-fragments IIRC.
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Was more thinking that if it was intercepted.

It should look like someone went at it with a full auto shotgun at best, be shredded at worse. Like hell we seen both with the Patriot incepts.

And its neither, looks like it smacked into the ground.
 
Firefinder said:
It should look like someone went at it with a full auto shotgun at best, be shredded at worse. Like hell we seen both with the Patriot incepts.

And its neither, looks like it smacked into the ground.
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I suspect that any intercepts made by the Russians, if they happened, were after the submunitions had been released.
 

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