USAF/US NAVY 6th Generation Fighter Programs - F/A-XX, F-X, NGAD, PCA, ASFS news

[Ninja]

NGAD Combined Test Force patch, new.

 

[FlyGuy369]

NGAD Combined Test Force patch, new.

One plane to rule them all perhaps? F-35 Redux?

 

[dark sidius]

One plane to rule them all perhaps? F-35 Redux?

The shape on the patch show 2 engines and a strange shape....

 

[sferrin]

One plane to rule them all perhaps? F-35 Redux?

No.

 

[FlyGuy369]

No.

I was meaning more that a combined test force may consist of the navy, marines, and airforce to test cross branch suitability.

 

[icyplanetnhc (Steve)]

The NGAD and F-22 have a combined test force, the 411th FLTS, but this is Air Force only.

 

[Scott Kenny]

I was meaning more that a combined test force may consist of the navy, marines, and airforce to test cross branch suitability.

No, NGAD is specifically USAF, and I don't expect USMC to get any of the FAXX planes unless the FAXX is a lot heavier on the attack side than a Tomcat was.

 

[donnage99]

I was meaning more that a combined test force may consist of the navy, marines, and airforce to test cross branch suitability.

which marine branch that is rich enough to afford such a plane, I want to be a citizen of that country.

 

[FlyGuy369]

Alright everyone, nailed down another "6th gen fighter" related patent from boeing.

Here's the link:

US20180237121A1 - Undercarriage-mounted airfoil - Google Patents

An aircraft nose gear-mounted flight control device promotes aircraft stability during low-speed phases of flight, including take-offs and landings. The flight control device is an operable airfoil secured to an aircraft nose gear, either to a vertical support strut or to a wheel axle thereof...

patents.google.com

Wild stuff there.

 

[Moose]

Alright everyone, nailed down another "6th gen fighter" related patent from boeing.

Here's the link:

US20180237121A1 - Undercarriage-mounted airfoil - Google Patents

An aircraft nose gear-mounted flight control device promotes aircraft stability during low-speed phases of flight, including take-offs and landings. The flight control device is an operable airfoil secured to an aircraft nose gear, either to a vertical support strut or to a wheel axle thereof...

patents.google.com

Wild stuff there.

As a wise man once said, Fascinating.

 

[Elysium]

As a wise man once said, Fascinating.

Yeah, I remember AusAirPower suggesting something like this way back when.

 

[Ozair]

Yeah, I remember AusAirPower suggesting something like this way back when.

LOL, well that again proves that a broken clock can be right twice a day...

 

[NMaude]

LOL, well that again proves that a broken clock can be right twice a day...

What's wrong with AusAirPower?

 

[Ozair]

What's wrong with AusAirPower?

Kopp was a nutcase and Goon had literally no idea what he was talking about.

A previous discussion held here about it. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/why-is-ausairpower-so-reviled.39593/

 

[windcalm]

NGAD Combined Test Force patch, new.

Assuming a 22.5° 2D wedge, the 40.8° oblique shock wave corresponds to about Mach 3. For a 3D cone, the Mach number is around 2.

 

[FlyGuy369]

Assuming a 22.5° 2D wedge, the 40.8° oblique shock wave corresponds to about Mach 3. For a 3D cone, the Mach number is around 2.

So a mission profile to remember from the Northrop grumman patent was a cruising altitude of FL600 with supercruise at M2.2 with periodic reductions down to M0.8. I suppose that profile may fit into that regime, but I have to wonder if the artwork is solely artistic, maybe even symbolic.

 

[4decaa]

An interesting watch, of high quality. (26 minutes long, from PBS)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-kP1vZ8lYw