US Supersonic Transport (SST) Program 1960-1971

[galgot]

Thanks!

I have volumes on the US SST program, the bound submissions to congress and FAA with data from both Lockheed and Boeing, most all NASA, Langley data, and other documents as well as a number of original blueprints and line drawings, only these models perplex me as I know the one style was PacMin. but I have no idea of the other earlier one. I probably need to post these on a diecast forum or something.

Here are a few more of the bulged and the lower strakes...

!!! This look like an early -300 config. !

Please please, post if you have more

 

[blackkite]

Boeing SST ALPA Position Paper and Articles from La Jetée Press - late 1960s

Brochures and advertisements featuring the Boeing SST 733 2707

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This picture shows the wing which has flat bulge same as galgot-san's model.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/boeing-2707-300-1-200-scale-model.44895/

 

[blackkite]

!!! This look like an early -300 config. !
View attachment 759142
Please please, post if you have more

I think that this drawing correspond following picture.

 

[blackkite]

The wing of 2707-300 full scale mockup had no bulge.

https://flic.kr/p/7aSA7r

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/4049859421/in/photostream/lightbox/

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

Convair 58-9 SST Airliner 3D Model by citizensnip

The Convair Model 58-9 was a proposed American supersonic transport, developed by the Convair division of General Dynamics and intended to carry fifty-two passengers at over Mach 2. Derived from the B-58 Hustler bomber, it was designed in 1961 but no examples of the type were ever built. The...

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[blackkite]

I believe this is the shape which could cruise mach 2.7.

Boeing tinkered with the design of the SST, but even with the 2707-300, they tinkered with the wing design.
I think that the need for landing gear fairings means that the thickness of the wing has been reduced.
The purpose of reducing the thickness of the wing is either to reduce drag or to reduce weight.
I imagine that it was difficult to satisfy either the range or speed requirements with the original design.

Lockheed L-2000

Wikipedia

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https://www.hotcars.com/the-l2000-lockheeds-lost-supersonic-transport/

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

Airports for the Supersonic Age - Part 1: Planning for SSTs

A look at how back in the 1960s airports dealt with the advent of SST aircraft. In the late 1960s, the expectation was that, by the late 20th century, the majority of long-haul passengers would fly in supersonic aircraft. In this article, we will examine

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[blackkite]

Lockheed Aircraft Magazine - SST - Jun 1966

Magazine issue featuring Lockheed Aircraft and SST from June 1966

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[blackkite]

Hi!

Lockheed L-2000 American Concorde SST No One Remembers

When I say American Concorde, you think of the Boeing 2707. But another design almost won the government contract, the Lockheed L-2000.It was cheaper and easier to build and had it been put into…

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[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

1.7K views · 77 reactions | Lockheed L-2000 Supersonic Transport - 1966 | Film segments via the U.S. National Archives. A classic case of "What might have been", here are some scenes of the L-2000 mock-up, plus some stills,... | By Classic Airliner V

Film segments via the U.S. National Archives. A classic case of "What might have been", here are some scenes of the L-2000 mock-up, plus some stills,...

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[blackkite]

Hi! 2707-200.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1242721914977738753

View: https://x.com/FanaAviationMag/status/1242721914977738753?lang=ja

 

[blackkite]

Hi! You can see 2707-100 display model large images.

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digitalcollections.library.miami.edu

 

[blackkite]

Hi! 2707-100.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g8A5oe?album_id=11682472

 

[blackkite]

BOEING 2707 | 案ずるより生むが「やすし」

お酒、音楽、乗り物、PC、地域活動．．．地味に活躍してます。

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[blackkite]

夢を託された鶴丸の次世代超音速旅客機

JALの旅コミュニティ trico（トリコ）。セントレア航空ファンミーティングで幻の超音速機「ボーイング 2707」の模型が展示してありましたので...

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[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[Musashi311]

In my personal opinion, I think that if the Lockheed proposal would've been picked, we probably would've gotten our SST. Sure the design was similar to the Concorde but Lockheed had experience in building jets and fast ones at that and it still would've surpassed the Concorde.

Also I do have a question regarding the L-2000. Does anyone have any estimates or specs regarding its internal fuel capacity? The L-2000-7 to be specific as that was the final design that would've gone into production if picked if I recall correctly.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[galgot]

Found this one in my collection of stuff found on the interweb, can't remember where I got it...
Anyway, strange cause it's -100 airframe with canards, and described as "Model 299B (Y1B-17)" (?!).

 

[flateric]

From Putnam's 'Boeing Aircraft Since 1916' - drawing by L.E.Bradford

 

[galgot]

From Putnam's 'Boeing Aircraft Since 1916'

Thanks !

 

[Gaël]

From my archive - official Boeing document for ground operations planningView attachment 679071

From my archive - official Boeing document for ground operations planningView attachment 679071

Ha! Lucky you... I've been looking for this doc for a while.

 

[galgot]

Ha! Lucky you... I've been looking for this doc for a while.

Un autre Gaël qui s'intéresse aux SST ? Je me sens moins seul ...

 

[landerso47]

Does anyone have any drawings or 3-views of the little known Lockheed L-2000 Phase 2B from 1965, also known as the L-2000-4? It was the 170 passenger version that was infamously mistaken for a Douglas proposal I think from FlightGlobal and Aviation Week magazine at the time. These are the only visualizers out there, just seeing if there was more. Note the fuel distribution cutaway above the TWA logo.
If Lockheed would have won I guarantee you they would have ditched the L-2000-7A/B designs by 1970 to '72 and went right back to the 170 seat JT17 turbofan design for efficiency purposes and flying at mach 1.7 to 2.2 after 1975. Pan Am's 50th anniversary flight from pole to pole would have been at mach 3 for public relations purposes only. The same with other airlines for various PR purposes and airline supremacy.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

Lockheed L-2000 SST art: 2 – The Unwanted Blog

 

[blackkite]

Bentleys London | Shop Motoring, Flying and Sailing | Lockheed L-2000 Model

A rare scale model of the Lockheed L-2000 made for use in a wind-tunnel to assess aerodynamic characteristics, circa 1960. The model was made in brass which has developed a patina that is more like the colour of bronze. The aircraft sits on a newly made aluminium stand. Shop Bentleys now.

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