Tupolev post 1945 combat aircraft projects

[hesham]

Hi,


here is some Tupolev bomber aircraft and projects, Tu-73,Tu-83,Aircraft 486,Aircraft 491
and Aircraft 509.


http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft27588.htm

 

[hesham]

Hi,


http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Indexes/Crafts1-1.htm

 

[airman]

http://translate.google.it/translate?hl=it&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Falternathistory.org.ua%2Fproekt-tyazhelogo-bombardirovshchika-64-sssr

A study about Tu-4 and possible derivates !

 

[Stargazer]

From Aerokosmicheskoye Obozreniye N°2, 2008:

• Aircraft "83" inboard profile.

Aircraft "83" differed from Aircraft "82" by having an increased fuselage length (19.9 m). The crew now included a gunner/radio operator, who was located behind the pilot. Radio-controlled PSBN bombs could now be replaced by REM-S precision targeting hardware. The AFA-BA/40 camera was replaced by an AFA-33/75. The shape and size of the canopy pilot were changed, and so was the breakdown of the fuselage fuel tanks. Construction of Aircraft "83" started at Factory #156, but in 1949 all work stopped. Work on Aircraft "82" (the first practical step towards the creation of the Tu-16) and Aircraft "83" ended in 1950 when the "82" prototype aircraft was mothballed and the Soviet Air Force launched the production of the Il-28 straight-wing front-line bomber.

 

[Stargazer]

From Aerokosmicheskoye Obozreniye N°2, 2008:

• Aircraft "486" inboard profile
• Aircraft "486" model

The basis of the wing arrangement on Aircraft "486" that of Aircraft "82", but with its length increased by 8.15 m. Vertical tail was prolonged by a dorsal fin. The size of the empennage was increased in accordance with the increase in the wing area and extension and the stability requirements for swept wings.

The fuselage was borrowed from the Aircraft "73", but was subjected to alteration of the nose landing gear compartment due to the increased height of the rack and the shift from single to twin wheels. The use of the swept wing also required to move the upper turret 6 m forward, ahead of the pressurized cabin. fuel A tank with capacity for 2350 kg of fuel was located high above the bomb bay.

Another fuselage tank with capacity for 2310 kg of fuel, was also placed to the rear, which forced to shift the rear fuselage pressurized cockpit by about 1 m. Due to the increased weight of the aircraft (up to 32 tons) the landing gear was strengthened by using new wheels.

Work on the Aircraft "486" ended at the initial design stage, serving as a basis for the design of the Aircraft "86" bomber in January 1949.

 

[Stargazer]

From Aerokosmicheskoye Obozreniye N°2, 2008:

Work on Aircraft "486" ended in the initial design stages, serving as a basis for the design of the Aircraft "86" long-range bomber in January 1949. Initially, Aircraft "86" was a modification of the Tu-14, designed by OKB-300. It was to be powered by two AM-02 turbojet engines with a thrust of 4780 kgs, or with two TR-3 turbojet engines with a thrust of 4500 kgs. After wind tunnel testing of the project at TsAGI, the aircraft was completely redesigned, and in March 1949 a completely new aircraft with swept wings was designed, based on the Aircraft "486" configuration. The original version of the machine had the following data:

Wing span, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.7
Length, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24.1
Height, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7.6
Swept wing degrees. . . . . . . 36.0
Flight weight overload, ie. . . . . . . 42.0
Empty weight, t. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.7
Full speed at 6000 m, km / h . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .980
Time to climb to 5000 m min. . . . . . . 4.8
Service ceiling, m. . . . . . . . . . . 13.400
Range with 2,000 kg of bombs, km. . . .4000
Takeoff, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1060
Crew. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .6

Airplane "86" differentiated itself from Aircraft "486" by the size of its bomb bay, calculated with a normal 2-ton bomb load of and a maximum 6-ton load; greater fuel capacity, increased from 5,2 to 17,2 cubic meters; and a larger fuselage diameter. The crew was increased to six people. The forward pressurized cabin was completely rearranged, and lost the fighter pilot-type stepped cockpit. The radio operator was moved into a separate, enclosed compartment. The front landing gear extended, while the main gear was fitted with dual wheels. Brake pads were installed in the aft fuselage. Gunnery armament supplemented the NP-23 forward cannon. A PSBN radar was fitted in the forward part of the fuselage.

During the development of Aircraft "86", the design bureau conducted research on the wing area, wing aspect ratio and flight characteristics of swept-wing aircraft. Their aim was to determine the optimal size of a wing with a sweep of 36° for a jet bomber with a takeoff weight of about 40,000 pounds and two AM-02 engines. The basis for study was a plane with a wing area of ​​80 sq.m. and an 8.06 stretch; 6,700 kg of fuel in the wings, 10,700 kg in the fuselage; and an empty weight of 19,000 kg. As a result, the optimal parameters were determined to be a wing area of 80-90 sq.m. with an 8-10 extension.

To increase the flight distance, an elongation of 10 and a wing area of 100-110 sq.m. were required. The original Aircraft "86" study continued to evolve, increasing the length of the fuselage, wing span, overall size and fuel capacity. The forward fuselage become more pointed, and the fuselage was rearranged to accommodate extra fuel tanks. The nose landing gear was equipped with dual wheels. Front cannon installation once again included an NP-23 gun. The PSBN radar was replaced by the PSBN-M. The calculated data of the second draft of Aircraft "86" was as follows:

Wing span, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27.5
Length, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27.5
Height, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8.3
Flight weight overload, ie. . . . . . . 42.0
Empty weight, t. . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.7
Full speed at 6000 m, km / h . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .980
Service ceiling, m. . . . . . . . . . . 13.400
Time lift to a height of 5,000 m, min. . . . 4.8
Range with 2,000 kg of bombs, km. . . .4750
Takeoff, m. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1060
Crew. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .6
Bomb load, kg. . . . . . . . . . . 2000-6000
The defensive armament. . 7 guns, HP-23

Based on Aircraft "86", a reconnaissance aircraft and torpedo bomber were drafted. The former had an increased fuel capacity and photographic reconnaissance capability, while the latter featured an extended bomb bay.

Research on Aircraft "86" showed that a full-fledged long-range bomber was possible only by increasing the weight and dimensions of the machine and its engine thrust by 1.5-2 times. Work on the program stopped at the stage of active design, but design solutions (in particular, the overall layout of the fuselage) were used in the project of the Tu-16, the creation of which was performed by the same design bureau.

In the absence of AM-02 engines, the bureau prepared a variant of Aircraft "86" using the more real TR-3 engines, designed by OKB-165. The project received the designation Aircraft "87" but did not differ from the original otherwise. Preliminary design was issued on July 18, 1949, but further development work was not granted.

The layout of Aircraft "86" and Aircraft "87" was studied in the preliminary design department, headed by S. M. Egerom. Despite the fact that both projects were not implemented, the layout solutions — especially for the fuselage, crew placement, weapons and equipment — were implemented with little or no changes in the "88" project and the preceding "494" project, proposed by B.M. Kondorsky's team.

 

[Stargazer]

From Aerokosmicheskoye Obozreniye N°2, 2008:

• Aircraft "491" inboard profile.

In April 1949, with an eye to the future, Kondorsky's crew drafted Aircraft "491", a modification of Aircraft "86" with increased flight speed. However, by keeping an angle of 35° for the swept wing, neither the AM-02's or the TR-3's margin thrust could be fully implemented, and so the machine was given a wing sweep of 45°. The rest of the proposal was based on the first version of Aircraft "86".

 

[hesham]

"Tu-200" was a made up Western designation. The actual Tupolev heavy bomber projects were 485, 471, 473, 474 with 6 to 8 engines.

To add is a project with non-confirmed designation '489' (i.e. it was but Rigmant could not dig it). Two versions of Tu-200 legend inspiration exist, one is leak of 485/487/489 projects info to the West (meanwhile, very limited circles had access to those studies), second is planned leak to let US think that Soviet Union's big sticks are here to come to cool some heads in Washington. Here is 485 and 489 illustrations, plus two fantasy pics from western sources.

Anther drawings of "Tupolev Tu-200"

 

[Jemiba]

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14789.30.html, #33 ...

 

[hesham]

Hi,


I think,this Tupolev Tu-1125 design is a misprint in that site,and they mean Tu-115,am I right ?;


http://www.tupolev.ru/english/Show.asp?SectionID=131

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is anther drawing to Tupolev Project 504.

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Jemiba,


here is the book; Черемухин Г.А. - Дальше. Выше. Быстрее воспоминания о работе в авиапромышленности%2C о технике и ее создателях


and some pages about the Tu-85 and the Project 504.

 

[borovik]

Nevertheless,


Of construction of the "G-300" air defense on the basis of the Tu-4 had been authorized by the Government of the Soviet Union 23 September 1950
From May to June 1952 on G-310 (Tu-4) completed 10 flights, including those with models of rockets "210" and "211".


Government Decision of 20.11.1953, the № 2837-1200 all work on missiles "211" were stopped.


Additional info:
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-303.html
http://topwar.ru/13398-aviacionnyy-komponent-pervogo-otechestvennogo-zrk-raketa-dalnego-deystviya-vozduh-vozduh-g-300.html
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/lavochkin/la/210/g300.htm

 

[flateric]

my fcuking bad...apologies, Hesham
http://alternathistory.org.ua/sverkhtyazheliy-perekhvatchik-pvo-tu-4-d-500-kompleks-g-310-1953g

 

[hesham]

Never mind my dear Flateric,


and thank you my dear Borovik,and that means it was a real design,can I display
it again.

 

[Stargazer]

My apologies too on this one. The term "Design..." in the signature and the crude quality of the additions in the artwork both made me think it was a fake.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a wooden model to Tupolev Aircraft 485 bomber project.


http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/index-970.html

 

[blackkite]

It is the airplane which was seen by something before,too. ;D

 

[Jemiba]

Judging from the translation of that site, this photo stems directly from Tupolev. So the aircraft
i the background should be a Tupolev, too. Could be a Tu-95 variant, I think, with the refuelling ,
probe and under nose radom, but something loks wrong to me.

 

[hesham]

My dear Jemiba,


it is Tupolev Tu-204P as a project for anti-submarine patrol aircraft.


http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/index-35.html

 

[Jemiba]

Ah, shame on me ! And we even had it here already : http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,807.msg200025.html#msg200025
But I insist, that there's a similarity in the kind of the radar installation to the Bear D with its
Big Bulge radar. A one-piece radom may be more efficient aerodynamically, I think.

 

[hesham]

From Kryl'ya Rodine 7/2002,


here is the Tupolev Aircraft-145,Tu-106 and Tu-106K bombers project,which
led to Tu-22M.

 

[hesham]

From Kryl'ya Rodine 8/2002,


here is a Tu-124 low-altitude bomber project.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Valiantski!

 

[hesham]

Valiantski!

My dear Paul,


do you mean,it looks like Vickers Valiant bomber

 

[Stargazer]

Yes, that's what Paul means...

And please, hesham, don't forget that Tupolev only used the Tu- prefix for aircraft that were built. Project were just given a number ("Aircraft 124" for instance here).

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the Tupolev Aircraft 106 and 106A.

 

[hesham]

From Kryl'ya Rodine 3/2013,


here is a Model for Tupolev Aircraft 108.

 

[Pioneer]

G'day Hesham
In your early post (as I don't read Russian) is that a model of a proposed carrier-based Ilyushin Il-28 'Beagle'? What with its folding wings! ???

Regards
Pioneer

 

[hesham]

My dear Pioneer,


that's the Tupolev Aircraft-108,no Ilyshin Il-28,or you meant anther reply ?.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

G'day Hesham
In your early post (as I don't read Russian) is that a model of a proposed carrier-based Ilyushin Il-28 'Beagle'? What with its folding wings! ???

Regards
Pioneer

It would be rather helpful if you quoted the relevant post, but its pretty unlikely that Tupolev did any Il-28 projects.

 

[Arjen]

@Pioneer:
Hesham's reply #50 shows a model of Project 509, a Tupolev Tu-14 with folding wings.
Project 509 was one of two proposed torpedo bombers for aircraft carriers to be built sometime in the fifties, but cancelled after Stalin's death. The other design became the Tu-91, one prototype built only.

 

[Pioneer]

G'day Hesham
In your early post (as I don't read Russian) is that a model of a proposed carrier-based Ilyushin Il-28 'Beagle'? What with its folding wings! ???

Regards
Pioneer

It would be rather helpful if you quoted the relevant post, but its pretty unlikely that Tupolev did any Il-28 projects.

Sorry my friend, I should have been more specific :-[
Arjen is correct [I meant the pic in your Reply #50! The ????? ‘509’]. But Arjen I think has answered the question re the

Project 509, a Tupolev Tu-14 with folding wings

Was the Project 509 intended for carrier deployment? Hence the folding wings?

Regards
Pioneer

 

[Arjen]

To your question: yes, it was intended for shipboard use.

[...]
Project 509 was one of two proposed torpedo bombers for aircraft carriers to be built sometime in the fifties, but cancelled after Stalin's death.
[...]

Both Tu-14 and Tu-91 did without without wing-folding eventually; Tu-14 because Project 509 was a variation on the fixed-wing original - Tu-91 because the prototype was finished as a land-based aircraft after the cancellation of the carriers.

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Pioneer,


it's Tupolev Aircraft 509,and my dear Arjen did the job.

 

[Cy-27]

Re: Hesham's post #65, this graphic shows where the Tupolev Project (Article) 106 fitted in to the Tu-22M chain of development.

It also shows the part played by the Project 105A and 145.

Source:

A & K magazine 5-6 1994

 

[hesham]

Nice find my dear Cy-27.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


the Tupolev had a project of front-line bomber with a canard or duck shape in 1950s,called FB,does
anyone hear about it before ?.

 

[hesham]

the Tupolev had a project of front-line bomber with a canard or duck shape in 1950s,called FB,does
anyone hear about it before ?.

I get it.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


also Tupolev had a project called Type D,it was a supersonic carrier based aircraft of 1950s,featured
by a canard or duck shape,does anyone hear about it before ?.