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By some special external attributes?
The color. Oh and Pyroceram is a very sensible material for Radome especially if it's need to work on high temperature.
By some special external attributes?
You might illustrate your point better by comparing how both aircraft developed over time (airframe, sensors, engines, etc.)Looking at those images they don't exactly scream 5th Gen do they? 5th Gen lite perhaps... The J-20 evolved significantly from the prototype stages where as it looks like the Su-57 has barely evolved at all except for a few sensors appearing here and there.
Well, it would be hard to compare Su-57 with J-20 without actual data on RCS (numbers, not eyeballing), which is classified anyway, .
2021 2 units
Interesting since it seems to hint another 'prospect customer', so the question is: which country could this be?
Algeria, if its regarding su 35Interesting since it seems to hint another 'prospect customer', so the question is: which country could this be?
The color. Oh and Pyroceram is a very sensible material for Radome especially if it's need to work on high temperature.
Interesting since it seems to hint another 'prospect customer', so the question is: which country could this be?
Other key points; T-50S-2 will be handed over to LIS (flight station) 20 August, in one week. The frame is planned to be handed over to MoD 30 October. Some mention of "a problem that will be discussed at a meeting" and "in regards to the frame that had an accident" (IE S-1). So sounds like they haven't agreed to how the contract will be amended etc with the loss of the frame.
Seems the smaller blue graph on far left side is related to cost but i cannot make out the numbers here. I want to say i see "3 182" on the right graph of the two, timestamp 12:32. This works out to 43,2 million USD. If i am correct on that number, it is lower than i expected.
EDIT; Haha, i see as i was writing this long and detailed post LMFS beat me somewhat to it. But still, much more to extract than just the production rate...
I see numbers 15, 8 and 3. Which should leave 4 for Su-57 as the current Su-35S contract is finished this year.
Deino said:Interesting since it seems to hint another 'prospect customer', so the question is: which country could this be?
This comes from the audio right? Not understanding Russian sucks xD
My absolutely uninformed guess was RUB3 billion per unit, considering modern Flankers cost RUB2 billion and the sheer amount of new technology the Su-57 includes and references by officials to its high costs. So it makes lots of sense to me but that is just my opinion.
No idea, I was just passing the numbers as stated by BMPD. How many first stage planes then, until izd. 30 appears? You talk above something about 2028, I don't know if that is a typo and you meant 2024.
BTW and to avoid spliting the discusion, what do the 4 rows for the VKS Su-35 supply mean? 1st I can't see, 2nd should be new contract (how many units / how much do they cost, since we know it is RUB70B), 3rd is something like "production in advance"(?), 4th is rebuild. How do you make sense of it all?
In perspective to the past experience, the still unclear economic situation and the number of so far produced aircraft since years I rate 9.5 aircraft per year most ambitious.
40 mil is pretty nice.
Izd.30 should appear from 2024-2025 or so. So 16-23 frames or so til Izd.30 off the line.
Current contract, new contract, "early delivery" (as in building more frames in a year than allocated, happened with Su-34 atleast), repaired/modernized Su-35S' and bottom two are two export contracts. (Algeria and Egypt)
Re 2024 or 2028 being in the table. After thinking about it he must have stuttered and meant 2024. If one thinks of the context for the second export Su-35 contract that would make sense. It is too hard to really make out the numbers in 2028 table other than total, but i think charly015's analysis is at the very least in the ballpark. And since it is 2024, and not 2028, 12 Su-57 frames makes a lot of sense.
Strange ... any explanation?
Strange ... any explanation?
It's impossible to be upside down, it outright wouldn't fit.Strange ... any explanation?
From the angles I assume it is upside-down. But chines are not so marked as in previously seen radomes, details are missing, tip material also looks different... I would not be surprised if it is just a cover. Maybe the experts can clarify
he took also the data from Red Samovar (based on public contracts for fuselage parts)
In the lower picture, why does the right tail wing root look different to the left one?Clearly:
In the lower picture, why does the right tail wing root look different to the left one?