Then the empty weight for the current iteration of Su-57 would be about 18800 Kg.
I've recently received Piotr Butowski's Su-57 book, and there are some rather interesting pieces of program history that I wasn't aware of. In no particular order I'll list a few of them off below, although it's by no means exhaustive.
During the now-defunct Indo-Russian FGFA saga, it seemed like the Indians from the beginning preferred the smaller Mikoyan E-721 design over the Sukhoi T-50; when the partnership was forming in 2005, Sukhoi's design was largely finalized, and India would rather pursue a less "mature" design like the E-721 where they can have more input into the design. Whether the FGFA cooperation was doomed to failure from the start is unknown, but there was definitely friction from the very beginning between India and Russia.
Unlike previous Sukhoi fighters, integration of mission systems and other onboard systems was performed by Sukhoi itself, rather than the traditional RPKB of Ramenskoye.
It appears that the AL-41F1 (izdeliye 117) is not quite as "interim" as many have believed; while I think there was always a longer term goal of equipping the aircraft with new engines, it appears that the plan has always been for the PAK FA to enter production and serve in combat units with the AL-41F1, and this was decided as far back as 2004. In fact, it appears that Sukhoi's T-50 submission for the PAK FA had the AL-41F1 from the very beginning. This is an interesting contrast with the Su-27, where the T-10 prototypes used the AL-21, but the revised T-10S and the production aircraft were equipped with the AL-31 from the beginning.
Apparently, weapon firing from internal bays didn't occur until March 2016.
The Su-57 has certainly suffered from weight creep compared to what was originally planned. I recalled the original goal was for an aircraft to be somewhere between the MiG-29 and Su-27 in size, in an effort to rein in cost. Certainly the Su-57 that's in production today is much closer to the Su-27 in terms of size, and especially after the "second stage" structural rework.
Why would US not export F-22 but Russia should be ready to do it with the Su-57 + izd. 30? If the reality follows leaked info, it is a state secret and too good to be exported.I truly think foreign interest in a new fighter design wont be serious until the izd 30 materializes. If it does, especially if along the current timeline, I think foreign interest will be considerably greater. Especially so if the stealth and avionics characteristics of Russia's su-57 prove their worth. Honestly I am starting to think it is a more capable aircraft than many had at first realized. And If as I said, izd 30 comes close to the current timeline, this will really hit home I think.
This is good to see as it will only get us to stop resting on air laurels and start jumping ahead of the game in substantial ways.
Good news is new avionics for 2022, Mikheeyev was an advisor of KRET that showcased articles in 2014 wanting to equip the Su-57 with ROFAR, I believe he was quoted again but from VEGA when they showcased the photonic radar antennas in 2020, the Yakhroma radar is in question based on the frequency ranges it would operate in along with mm waves, even the head of their ABM shield was talking about terahertz ranges involving these kinds of radars.Well, looking at the su-57 it has some serious wing area, being clean and fast I figure it would give its missiles a boost to get more range. Also, it should turn pretty good. The question is how good is the radar and avionics. The f-22 might be still classified due to its performance and ability to mess with other airplane's radars.
Would be strange reason for classification considering how poor it is in that regard...The f-22 might be still classified due to ... ability to mess with other airplane's radars.
There is a single serial Su-57 flying. This year it will be +4. So no sqn or regiment yet.Is there an operational squadron of Su-57s now? Or not yet? If there is, when was that stood up as an active fighter wing?
+2There is a single serial Su-57 flying. This year it will be +4. So no sqn or regiment yet.Is there an operational squadron of Su-57s now? Or not yet? If there is, when was that stood up as an active fighter wing?
+2There is a single serial Su-57 flying. This year it will be +4. So no sqn or regiment yet.Is there an operational squadron of Su-57s now? Or not yet? If there is, when was that stood up as an active fighter wing?
+2There is a single serial Su-57 flying. This year it will be +4. So no sqn or regiment yet.Is there an operational squadron of Su-57s now? Or not yet? If there is, when was that stood up as an active fighter wing?Here Borisov says about 4.![]()
Минобороны РФ в 2021 году получит четыре новых истребителя Су-57
Министерство обороны РФ в этом году получит четыре новых многофункциональных истребителя пятого поколения Су-57, сообщил вице-премьер правительства Юрий Борисов Радио Sputnik, 16.06.2021radiosputnik.ria.ru
Will it be tandem seat like Su-34? I've read that thanks to modern avionics, modern aircraft like the F-35 and F-22 take so little mental effort to fly, that the pilot can essentially put all effort into mission-specific tasks. I've also read that even though the F15EX is a two-seater, the Air Force isn't planning to put in a second pilot? If this is the case, what's the use case for a two-seater aircraft besides training?Russia to make a two seat version of the Su-57?
India must be jelly
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Минобороны и "Сухой" планируют разработку двухместного Су-57 на экспорт
Модель может создать дополнительный спрос, отметил вице-премьер Юрий Борисовtass.ru
I guess 3 heads are better than one? https://tass.com/defense/1013337 one has to control the drones, the other is to support decisions for pilots while the pilot is the pilot? less accidents is another idea. Only listed as export, so maybe countries purchasing it don't get AI support?Will it be tandem seat like Su-34? I've read that thanks to modern avionics, modern aircraft like the F-35 and F-22 take so little mental effort to fly, that the pilot can essentially put all effort into mission-specific tasks. I've also read that even though the F15EX is a two-seater, the Air Force isn't planning to put in a second pilot? If this is the case, what's the use case for a two-seater aircraft besides training?
Only disappointing news is that reading the maks 2021 airshow it seems they wont have the project Megapolis 2022-2024 upgrade demonstrations ready, maybe the 2023 and 2025 airshows will have better chances if they show it at all.Personally i think the final engine does not really have much inpact here. They will pull those airframes already out, back into a engine retrofit, and that is that.
So, the ney sayers only have to rely on too little too late argument as a 6th generation platform is "just" around the corner..![]()
Around 2030 US will decide whether to start from scratch the development of their 4.5G fighter to substitute the F-16yeah well.. it can surly be pointed out that F-35 are flying in en mass.
And that there are no more 4th gen western airframes in production anymore.... well bar SH, F-15, EF, Rafale nd so on.
It's already flown.US 6th gen won't fly in the next 10 years.
Wait what?It's already flown.US 6th gen won't fly in the next 10 years.
I'm sure he meant FOC.It's already flown.US 6th gen won't fly in the next 10 years.
No it hasn't. (If you read their carefully worded announcement you'll see that.)It's already flown.US 6th gen won't fly in the next 10 years.