Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-35 News thread, pictures and discussion

Forest Green said:
Coefficient of fullness?
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Same concept as ship's Block Coefficient, basically "chubbyness" or how slender/fat is the form. The chubbier the bomb, the higher the fullness coefficient, while the more slender the bomb, the lower. Bomb with fullness coefficient of 1 is basically a box.

The M-54 counterpart of that FAB-1500T is looking like this, short, fat and have fullness coefficient of 43.5%

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After many aspirin for several years I have been able to understand the differences between Sukhoi models. o_O

To avoid complicating it, I read that the Su-30 and Su-35 have the radome and the front of the fuselage of greater diameter to allow the antenna rotation of the IRBIS and IRBIS-3 radar. However, although I observe that the tip of the cone rises slightly upward on the Su-30, and the obvious difference of the Su-35 with no lifting part, I do not see much difference with respect to the diameter of the Su-27.

Has someone accurate planes with same scale o make a comparison of shapes and sizes. Thanks in advance !
 
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TMA1 said:
cannot say I am happy about any of this escalation on escalation but the planes are indeed beautiful
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It is a deal Russia and Iran have had in the works for years (predates the war) and it might apparently finally be fulfilled with aircraft that Egypt was supposed to buy before the purchase ran afoul of sanctions. It is, IIRC, only a couple dozen aircraft all together anyway, so not a meaningful force.
 
TMA1 said:
cannot say I am happy about any of this escalation on escalation but the planes are indeed beautiful
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Yes, I hope that these aircraft will act as a deterrent, so that we don't end up with a full-scale conflict between Iran and the USA.
 
Unfortunately, the picture has been debunked as being old, from iirc 2021 showing nighttime flights of the egyptian pilots training with them in Russia.
But still hoping we'll see Su-35 in iranian colours. The iranian revolution anniversary comes soon so who knows. We had no clue of the Yak-130 deal or them arriving in Iran until they decided to show them.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1751051290933891474

This one is the "Missile truck" configuration with 12x RVV-SD/R-77-1. Still relatively low RCS but not optimum, especially compared with other fighters in BVR configuration.

The configuration :
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The comparison with clean Su-35's

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Comparison with other fighters in BVR configurations :

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Will look at other configurations when future allows. Might also try to compare it with Izd-180.
 
QuadroFX said:
And nothing happened, fire ended on its own - there was nothing to burn there.


Yeah, a 2000 km long raid. What kind of idiots are writing these headlines?

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I would have to agree. You don't set a jet on fire with some clots of drenched gas.
When they repaired the Fullback that skidded out of runway and flipped on its roof, you would imagine they also put this Fullback into service without too much problem.
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp5BtigU4hk

Su-35 plane crashed in occupied Sevastopol​

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Yagain??? This must be a CF world record.

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Deino said:
so this is another one?
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It's almost 240km from the nearest part of the frontline and the local air defence was noted as going active around the same time, so it could well be another friendly fire incident, if that's even possible, either that or a very long range UAF SAM shot, or one hell of a malfunction.

Is there a point at which fiendly fire isn't friendly anymore?

It's looking like friendly fire, UAF is not claiming it.

Minus one. An SU-35 military plane crashed in the temporarily occupied Crimea. The pilot ejected. The information was confirmed by the local governor. However, he did not tell about the reasons for the fall. At the same time, local publics assume that the aircraft carrier became another victim of Russian air defense.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijvQuzn2Udc

https://twitter.com/x/status/1773385429594656850
View: https://x.com/astraiaintel/status/1773385429594656850?s=20
 
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Russia’s air force is hollowing itself out. More air defense can help.

Opinion: NATO can afford to donate more munitions to Ukraine now without worrying about its immediate strategic reserves.
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The Russian Aerospace Forces, or VKS, continues to burn through the life span of its fighter aircraft in the war against Ukraine. After two years of air war, its total force is slightly less than 75% of its prewar strength.

The VKS has directly lost approximately 16 fighters over the past eight months. However, this does not account for the imputed losses, which arise from an aircraft accruing more flight hours than planned, reducing its overall life. Based on updated information, the VKS is on track to suffer approximately 60 imputed aircraft losses this year from overuse. That is equivalent to losing 26 new airframes. Meanwhile the VKS currently procures only about 20 total Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35 aircraft per year.
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АвиаМИР инфо » НОВОСТИ / СОБЫТИЯ » Каждую ракету, снаряд – в цель!

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It is run thru google translate. I found this article from the ruskies regarding a simple walkthrough of a usual gun/r-73 missile practice mission on old naval su-27s. Alright article and neat pictures.

Edit:also I know this isnt one of the later variants of the flanker it just seems like this is now the defacto thread for all general flanker stuff. Also cool to see them still working on one of their old guys.
 
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1787610248972255628
View: https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1787610248972255628

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Forest Green said:
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1787610248972255628
View: https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1787610248972255628

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VVS everytime they lose an Su-34 during non-combat sorties:

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Any idea how are these guys getting shot down without getting a missile warning? Do they only get a warning in the last stage of the middle flight?
 
AGS-1787 said:
Any idea how are these guys getting shot down without getting a missile warning? Do they only get a warning in the last stage of the middle flight?
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Depends on how the missiles are set up to guide for long range shots.

Something like an SM2ER isn't guiding on the plane for most of the flight, it's flying via INS and datalink to where the target will be. Then the illumination radar fires off shortly before planned impact and the missile guides in with maybe a second or two of warning.
 
Getting a missile warning does not mean you are necessarily able to do anything about it. If you're inside the kinematic no-escape zone and your countermeasures fail to defeat the guidance system, your only hope is a malfunction.

Also the only VKS fixed-wing aircraft with a modern IIR MAWS that can detect coasting missiles is the Su-35S.
 
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