Skoda-Kauba Aircraft & Projects

[hesham]

From L + K 21/1966.

 

[Aubi]

Some details from Kbely museum.
Propeller from Skoda-Kauba V8.
Wing from Skoda-Kauba Sk 257.
Badly manipulated (by me) picture of original proposal for Sk P14.
History of Skoda-Kauba.

 

[edwest4]

The idea that the Germans did not know about supersonics is wrong. Evidence includes captured wind tunnels and projects at Arado and Messerschmitt. The V-2 rocket was, in fact, hypersonic. The DFS-346 prototype is another example. The book Arado Flugzeugwerke in English will be released in January 2020. https://www.amazon.com/Arado-Flugzeugwerke-Aircraft-Development-History/dp/1781556717

 

[edwest4]

Some details from Kbely museum.
Propeller from Skoda-Kauba V8.
Wing from Skoda-Kauba Sk 257.
Badly manipulated (by me) picture of original proposal for Sk P14.
History of Skoda-Kauba.

Thank you very much. I think what was going on in Austria, especially in 1945, has either been little researched or remains classified.

 

[Aubi]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

 

[edwest4]

I would like to know what was going on in the Bohemia-Moravia Protectorate. Especially research at Brno University.

 

[hesham]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

 

[newsdeskdan]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

You've already seen it. It's the P 14.

 

[hesham]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

You've already seen it. It's the P 14.

Let the man do it,and after that we can judge.

 

[newsdeskdan]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

You've already seen it. It's the P 14.

Let the man do it,and after that we can judge.

Let what man do what?

Incidentally, it's unclear whether Sänger actually worked for Skoda-Kauba. It seems more likely that Skoda-Kauba was simply handed his report of 1943 suggesting a ramjet powered fighter (the included sketch looks remarkably like the P 14) and tidied it up into a 'real' project.
From top:
Sänger's original design from October 1943
Skoda-Kauba P 14 from March 1945
Skoda-Kauba P 14 description front page

 

[edwest4]

Thank you for posting this.

 

[Aubi]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

You've already seen it. It's the P 14.

Wait, what? Silbervogel is P 14 or something? There seems to be communication error.

Silbervogel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[newsdeskdan]

Bohemia Prague. Also, Eugen Sänger made proposal for supersonic sub-orbital "Amerika Bomber" called Silbervogel, Silver Bird. Quite interresting. Sänger was Czech German and after the dismisal of Silvervogel he worked for Skoda-Kauba.

Great Info,we want to see it.

You've already seen it. It's the P 14.

Wait, what? Silbervogel is P 14 or something? There seems to be communication error.

Silbervogel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No. The 'Silbervogel' is not the P 14. And the name 'Silbervogel' doesn't appear to have been applied until after the war, neither was it called 'Amerika Bomber'. Sänger just calls it 'Raketenbomber' or 'Fernbomber mit raketenantrieb' in the report on that design of August 1944.

These are the known major Sänger works:
Earliest investigation of Lorin drive at the LFA’s Institut für Gasdynamik - report August 1938
Fighter with Lorin drive at the DFS - report October 1943
Rocket bomber (what you call Silbervogel) at the DFS - report August 1944 (based on work carried out between 1937 and 1941)
Me 262 with Lorin drive at the DFS - report January 1945
then the Skoda-Kauba P 14 - report March 1945

 

[hesham]

These are the known major Sänger works:
Earliest investigation of Lorin drive at the LFA’s Institut für Gasdynamik - report August 1938
Fighter with Lorin drive at the DFS - report October 1943

Can we see those Projects ?.

 

[newsdeskdan]

These are the known major Sänger works:
Earliest investigation of Lorin drive at the LFA’s Institut für Gasdynamik - report August 1938
Fighter with Lorin drive at the DFS - report October 1943

Can we see those Projects ?.

The 1938 design is going in Luftwaffe: Secret Projects of the Third Reich. The 1943 design is the top drawing I posted in reply #90.

 

[edwest4]

Skoda-Kauba V4 with panzerfaust model kit.

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[Aubi]

Another try in the Kbely museum.

 

[edwest4]

Thank you.

 

[Motocar]

Good for speculative cutaway drawing

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi! It's hard to read aircraft size from the drawing, perhaps.......
P14-01 Span : 7m, Length : 9.85m, Height : 4.5m
P14-02 Span : 7.9m, Length : 9.5m, Height : 4.45m

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

Škoda Kauba Sk P.14 - Alchetron, The Free Social Encyclopedia

The kodaKauba Sk P.14 was a ramjetpowered emergency fighter project for the Luftwaffe. It was designed by the kodaKauba industries towards the end of World War II as part of the Third Reich defense effort against the devastating allied bombing raids. Engineer Eugen Snger worked on this ramjet

alchetron.com

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

Skoda-Kauba SK P.14-02 (Unknown, Resin) | ModelPlanes.de

 

[edwest4]

This would have been a very potent point interceptor. Thank you for posting.

 

[blackkite]

I'm worried about whether this plane will be able to take off safely and reliably.

 

[hesham]

From, Aerei Nella Storia 63.

 

[steelpillow]

Published drawings of Kauba's small experimental monoplanes are few, small, minimally detailed and a poor match to photographs. I have reconstructed a 3-view general arrangement drawing of the pusher-configuration V6 from the photos in Saffek & Ploceck's le Fana No.272 article already mentioned. The SL6 was an outboard-tail test machine made by modifying the V6, but there are no known contemporary renderings so I offer also a notional GA of this, based on a minimal solution of replacing the wing tips with the tail booms and adding some bespoke tailplanes. The photos do not show all angles and sources tend to be inconsistent over dimensions, so they are nominal in that respect. While I have sized and shaped details by eye, I have added very little speculative detail, and then only to finish off something that was obviously there. They cannot be said to be accurate, but I believe they are the best available. Here are some low-resolution copies.

 

[hesham]

From this book.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Hi

 

[1946]

Hello,
Is there a book that covers all of the Skoda-Kauba / Otto Kauba plane designs?

 

[Justo Miranda]

No

 

[edwest4]

More photos here:

Skoda-Kauba V4, SK 257, and V5

The Skoda-Kauba V4 and SK 257 were a series of high-performance trainers built in Czechoslovakia during WWII. Inspired by V4 and SK 257, the V5 was a fighter design that was not built.

oldmachinepress.com

 

[hesham]

Hello,
Is there a book that covers all of the Skoda-Kauba / Otto Kauba plane designs?

As my dear Justo mentioned,but you can find some of them (not all) in the book,
V.Nemecek "Ceskoslovennska Letadla 1918-1945

 

[Justo Miranda]

Skoda -Kauba

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-2

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-3

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-4

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-5

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-6

 

[Justo Miranda]

Post-7