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I would dearly love to see many more hard core science and engineering based sci-fi spacecraft designs, rather than ones purely driven by the rule of cool pseudo aesthetics of the day, like 80's hairdos (or rather hair dont's, by current standards, although I am fairly confident everything will come back to be fashionable again, barring a spontaneous global nuclear exchange, asteroid impact event, deadly bird flu outbreak, or some other such shenanigan).
 
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I would dearly love to see many more hard core science and engineering based sci-fi spacecraft designs, rather than ones purely driven by the rule of cool pseudo aesthetics of the day, like 80's hairdos (or rather hair dont's, by current standards, although I am fairly confident everything will come back to be fashionable again, barring a spontaneous global nuclear exchange, asteroid impact event, deadly bird flu outbreak, or some other such shenanigan).
Tell me about it. SF art and design, especially in film and gaming, has really got stuck in a rut. I like the colour and vigour of artists such as Chris Foss and Peter Elson which was fresh then while referring back to the pulps and their bold colour. Nowadays though there's a dreary groupthink that dictates everything must be grey (or if you're going to be flamboyant, maybe a blue stripe somewhere) and blocky and - ugh! - consistent to the 'canon' of the 'franchise.' In the case of 'canonicity', its absurdity insistently compounded upon absurdity for its own sake.

Oh, I'll throw in a few more words: stale, solipsistic, and the like. Contrary to their claims of being imaginative, the average Trekkies is the least imaginative and least curious.

Even some of the nerds get it:


Anyway, I have no time anymore for sf with FTL drives that purport to be more real than the Infinite Improbability Drive, artificial gravity from magic floors without centrifuges, power and propulsion sources that require no fuel or propellant - or cooling. Special relativity at least gives so much more of a challenge and therefore potential inspiration for a story than simply treating spacecraft as glorified Toyotas that have special light and colour effects once they get on the motorway.

'Canon' or 'in the future, they'll have sorted that out' is the kind of cop-out I find intellectually offensive when there is so much potential to be found in looking at the unique and exciting possibilities revealed by serious studies. The Firefly study a few years back came up with something that looked like nothing else (certainly not an Enterprise -A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H...) and yet had plenty of elegance and visual excitement.

I would expect real spacecraft of the next century or so to have a sort of Art Nouveau appearance, with slender hyperboloid curves having more structural and material mass efficiency than something that looks like a bulldozer that lost a fight with itself.

After that rant, I should have a cup of tea and a lie-down, but I'm afraid that I must exit pursued by hoard of pitchfork-wielding Trekkies.
 
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I would expect real spacecraft of the next century or so to have a sort of Art Nouveau appearance, with slender hyperboloid curves having more structural and material mass efficiency than something that looks like a bulldozer that lost a fight with itself.
While I do not know how different people would interpret and create said styling, I do very much like the idea.
 
a bulldozer that lost a fight with itself.
I seem to recall Angus Mckie quite liking that sort of thing.;)
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Another stab at the War of the Worlds. I imagine the conversation went a bit like this
editor: We need a cover for Wells's The War of the Worlds
artist: That is about an alien invasion, right?
editor: Yes, that is the one
artist: No problem, I'll have it done by Monday.
 

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Im Memoriam Chris Moore (1947 - 2025).

The cover is from my collection and is for the 1990 Pan Books edition of the novel 'Tjata Grimm's World' by Vernor Vinge.
 

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I would dearly love to see many more hard core science and engineering based sci-fi spacecraft designs, rather than ones purely driven by the rule of cool pseudo aesthetics of the day, like 80's hairdos (or rather hair dont's, by current standards, although I am fairly confident everything will come back to be fashionable again, barring a spontaneous global nuclear exchange, asteroid impact event, deadly bird flu outbreak, or some other such shenanigan).
Atomic rockets? Martin, Martin, where is your environmentalist side?:D

As for the hairstyles... mine has always been in fashion, if anyone is interested, I can recommend them to my hairdresser.
 

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Atomic rockets? Martin, Martin, where is your environmentalist side?:D

As for the hairstyles... mine has always been in fashion, if anyone is interested, I can recommend them to my hairdresser.
I was referring to thermonuclear war, not nuclear rocket propulsion, so... ?
 

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"although I am fairly confident everything will come back to be fashionable again,"
That was obviously stated in jest - or do you also expect black and white silent movies to make a roaring comeback on the big screen? But also, since to date there has never been a nuclear rocket engine with a TRL 9 in existence, let alone operation, there really is nothing to come back...
 
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That was obviously stated in jest - or do you also expect black and white silent movies to make a roaring comeback on the big screen? But also, since to date there has never been a nuclear rocket engine with a TRL 9 in existence, let alone operation, there really is nothing to come back...
I joked too; it's always a pleasure to exchange a few witty phrases with you.;)
 
Soviet space art by Nikolai Kolchitsky, 1951.
That brings to mind this from YouTube yesterday,
Feb 10, 2025
China's Shenzhou 19 recently set a up a dart board on the Tiangong Space Station and celebrated the Chinese New Year.
and that humanity seriously needs at least one of those rotating wheel artificial gravity space stations so we could compare dart flight paths on Earth, in orbital microgravity of current space stations, and in rotating wheel style station induced gravity.
 
Sayeth Jim Burns.

Back in 2017 at the request of Pat Robinson I was asked to create a few sketches based on Game of Thrones characters...he suggested that I do a version of Ser Barristan from Game of Thrones and I thought to use my old chum Chris Moore as the model - utilising a random photo I found of him ....
 

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Star Citizen Drake Corsair
by Paul Jones Jim Martin
 

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Jim Martin Participate in works
Star Trek
Starship Troopers
The Matrix
Star Citizen
Superman
 

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Starship for folks who don’t have delusions of godhood
Starship, in anything like its current form, is not going to be able to aerobrake in the Martian atmosphere. Voyage itself proposed a lander based on the North American MEM design which was essentially a scaled-up Apollo capsule that we now know would not have been able to enter without leaving nothing more than a crater. Art by Robert McCall.

Compare with a concept informed by later understanding of the atmosphere.
 

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The cover art by Colin Hay (an artist who's work has been confused with that of both Chris Foss and Tony Roberts.) for 'Tjata Grimm's World' (1987) by Vernor Vinge. The novel itself was a 'fix-up' combining several stories set on the same world published between 1968 and 1986.

Actually, this is the cover for “Grimm’s World”, published by Hamlyn in 1978. “Tjata Grimm’s World” is a later edition.
 
The pulpy cover to the 1952 novel 'Earthbound' by Milton Lesser. If you look carefully you can see headgear that resembles that featured on the cover of the various issues of 'Spicy Adventures' I posted earlier in the thread.
 

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The pulpy cover to the 1952 novel 'Earthbound' by Milton Lesser. If you look carefully you can see headgear that resembles that featured on the cover of the various issues of 'Spicy Adventures' I posted earlier in the thread.
It looks like capt kirk beating up some unknown redshirt while buck rogers [or his french cousin] looks on in shock.Meanwhile tom corbett space cadet [oddly chained up to a globe of the earth] is trying to signal the crew of the landing rocket ship.
Or something like that..... ;)
 

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