Project ISINGLASS & Project RHEINBERRY

I still just can't believe they picked a BS-100 turbojet just to get the Harrier-like swivelling nozzles... and engine exhausts on the rear flanks.
To make room for the big XLR-129 engine bell on the rear.

In passing: STOL rocketplane to (near) orbit... ! Never thought a Harrier could marry a X-15, but that peculiar ISINGLASS design more or less did that.

If they were concerned about the bifurcated exhaust to miss the rocket, they might have just used twin engines with the rocket in between?
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Good idea, but jet engines are heavy, and rocketplanes hate any weight, mass fraction is all important to them: 0.80 to 0.95 - or die suborbital.

Also, some of the F-155T designs (and a lot of other jet-rocket hybrids) had severe structural / vibration / acoustic issues because of the rocket in the tail. Those things are extremely noisy (150 dB or more !).
 
I've realized that McDonnell ISINGLASS proposal (against Convair ramjets proposals, circa 1964) was heavily related to their Model 122 / Alpha Draco / BGRV work.

Page 126 of the Pdf
McDonnell expended a concerted effort on a proposal using
the Alpha Draco concept for the Minuteman missile system,
but it was just too new and not a completely proven concept.
Our Model 122 research projects remained in work but at a
reduced level. One tangible effect of our effort was that the
English lexicon was increased by the acronym BGRV, for boost
glide reentry vehicle, which was the Air Force–acceptable generic
name for our glide concept. One of the research projects
that finally garnered a contract and made it to the flight phase
was the Model 122E BGRV. It was launched at Vandenberg
AFB, California, using an Atlas booster and glided several thousand
miles making a turn around Johnson Island on its way to
Wake Island.
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The first Atlas launch at Vandenberg AFB with a boilerplate
missile was unexpectedly terminated about 30 seconds into
the flight by a malfunction of the Atlas self‑destruct system.
The second flight test, using a flight article, placed the 122E
into the correct insertion point. Unfortunately, when the 122E
separated from the Atlas, a static-electric buildup between the
122E and the Atlas created a spark that set off the command
destruct system in the 122E. Launch number three, on 26 February
1966, was an outstanding success. It glided down the
entire range, even making a turn over Johnson Island to its
planned target point. The flight was terminated by a programmed
self‑destruct when it reached Mach 5 at 100,000 feet
altitude, where it would have been commanded to dive to the
target in operational use.
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McDonnell did not made one, but TWO ISINGLASS proposals.
- Model 192 is the familiar one: B-52 launched, piloted, glided recovery, XLR-129 / RL-20 engine.
-Model 122 is least known.

It kind of made a few compromises
- separated booster
- no pilot
- no wings
- recovery by parachute

And this, folks, makes it a close relative of Model 122B Alpha Draco (1959) and Model 122E BGRV (1966).

More on this on the next post. Took me a while to realize the unmanned ISINGLASS "backup proposal" was McDonnell trying to place their revolutionary 122 boost-glide system into the strategic reconnaissance role.
 

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The two proposals can be identified in the three attached documents. There was Model 192, and then there was Model 122. The later clearly derived from 122B / 122E-BGRV - but I don't know whether 192 related to BGRV besides the flight profile.

Seems that the "Model 122" ISINGLASS proposal corresponds to the varied concepts "S-104".
- Air launched from a B-52, like Model 192 (two variants: BG-1A & BG-2A)
- Ground launched by a repurposed ICBM, like Model 122E (BG-1G, with a Titan II in place of Atlas F)

I had once posted this at NASAspaceflight https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=18261.60

Excerpt from this document (attached document with the name ISINGLASS1966, dated February 23, 1966)
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Last page of the Pdf, I cleaned it up.

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Now back to that February 26, 1966 Model 122E BGRV flight.
Launched by an Atlas F from Vandenberg it made a rocket-glide flight as far as Johnston & Wake islands in the Pacific. That's 5000 miles, which evenly matches ISINGLASS planned range.
The date is also a perfect match.
McDonnell ISINGLASS proposals started in March 1965 and died in March 1967 (see "ISINGLASS FOIA cleanup" doc above). That BGRV flight was smack dab in the middle, so not surprising McDonnell took their chance with a Model 122 proposal for ISINGLASS.
 
Last post for today, I swear. So, looking at this picture below... left to right, date: February 23, 1966. Seems the NRO was reviewing varied "exotic" options that included ISINGLASS... and a few others.

- Lockheed D-21 drone TAGBOARD

- McDonnell ISINGLASS [well-known proposal : manned / B-52]

- S-103: TOWN HALL like proposal: big rocket dropped from a bomber, to launch a cut-down spysat

- S-104: McDonnell second ISINGLASS proposal: Model 122 family, BGRV

- S-105: Convair ISINGLASS family (B-58 / mach 4 / ramjet / 110 000 ft)

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From all the above, here is my own opinion - for what its worth.

By 1966 GAMBIT and CORONA had suceeded and defined two core missions, two spysats.
- broad mapping of the Soviet Union 22 million km2 at a resolution of a few feet (CORONA)
- pinpoint details at a scale of a few inch (GAMBIT-1 / GAMBIT-3)

Last spysat not a GAMBIT nor a CORONA launched in August 1964.
First KH-9 launched in June 1971.

So, for seven years, the NRO optical spysats were either GAMBIT 1/3 or CORONA.

Besides these two of course the spooks had plenty of concepts and missions in the pipeline: VHR, crisis reconnaissance, Near Real Time... also plenty of "exotic" concepts and proposals by aerospace contractors. Not only spysats, but also drones, and A-12 / SR-71 follow on, plus MOL / Dynasoar, that is, USAF controversial manned space program.

Seems that document drew a comparison between these varied "exotic" concepts
- three ISINGLASS: Convair versus McDonnell 192 versus McDonnell 122
- two more alternatives
a) Lockheed well-known D-21 drone
b) that old idea of air-launching spysats: dropping rockets from large aircraft (TOWN HALL, 1962: Polaris from either A-12 or B-58)
Seems b) wasn't dead by 1966, four years after TOWN HALL...
 
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Dew said:
Archibald said:
I've realized that McDonnell ISINGLASS proposal (against Convair ramjets proposals, circa 1964) was heavily related to their Model 122 / Alpha Draco / BGRV work.
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*Ahem* ;)
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I'm growing old. Plus I tend to mix McDonnell and Douglas, since they merged 15 years before I came to that world: I grew up in the 1980's / 90's so I have difficulty imagining the two as separate entities.
 
Archibald said:
I'm growing old. Plus I tend to mix McDonnell and Douglas, since they merged 15 years before I came to that world: I grew up in the 1980's / 90's so I have difficulty imagining the two as separate entities.
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Ah it was the "Remember that the unmanned boost glide vehicle related to ISINGLASS was the (Y variant?) Model 122, which spanned from 1957 through to mid-sixties (and a little beyond?) edit: late-sixties, including the Alpha-Draco (B) & BGRV (E)." part I was prompting :)
 
Dynoman said:
I'm wondering if any additional data on hypersonic optical cameras and windows are available.
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from Nov 27 1968:

Wind tunnel tests have been conducted on techniques for cooling camera windows for hypersonic aircraft using a fuselage cavity and helium injection. Test data is now being analyzed, and preliminary results show that satisfactory cooling, with adequate control of thermal gradients in the window, can be accomplished with reasonable amounts of helium.
These studies have shown that the window will not pose insurmountable problems in the development of hypersonic reconnaissance vehicles if such are needed for the Advanced Aircraft Reconnaissance System.​
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MEMORANDUM FOR: Comptroller, Special Activities, PROGRAM CALL, FISCAL YEARS 1971-1975​

 
We have many scattered BGV & BGRV mentions on this forum. This is just for the record (because this is fascinating stuff) - to have all of them together in one post and one place.



https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...es-start-asset-prime-fdl-x-24-etc.722/page-10

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/project-isinglass-project-rheinberry.382/page-9

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/defense-against-hypersonic-glide-vehicles.31281/page-10
(with that gem - http://aviationarchives.blogspot.com/2020/06/mcdonnell-alpha-draco-missile30th-year.html )

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/asalm.466/page-2


https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/early-maneuverable-reentry-vehicle-studies.8981/page-2
 
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did isinglass take off from the drawing board or was it only a proposed aircraft sorry if I sound dumb
 
They build an airframe test rig and components of the xlr-129 rocket. But no complete aircraft. Spysats were cheaper and much more flexible.
 
Attached: a whole lot of CIA documents, related to ISINGLASS. Just in case the links are taken down. Nothing new, the docs have been discussed earlier in this thread.
 

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Archibald said:
Nope he quoted Astronautix which is all wrong. This is BGRV, 1966 and Atlas.
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There is literally a sign next to it in the second picture which clearly reads Simulated Re-entry Vehicle. It is most certainly BGRV (well, ABRES at least) related though.
 
Archibald said:
The Wizards of Langley has this to say about ISINGLASS / RHEINBERRY

books.google.fr

The Wizards Of Langley

In this, the first full-length study of the Directorate of Science and Technology, Jeffrey T. Richelson walks us down the corridors of CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and through the four decades of science, scientists, and managers that produced the CIA we have today. He tells a story of...
books.google.fr
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Why do you need orbital velocity for a spyplane?
 
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I didn't said that. I was just compairing RHEINBERRY Mach 20 - 22 (suborbital) velocity to orbital velocity.
 
waste time on searching model 192 is meaningless, model 192 never become something real aircraft, only model 122 is
usefull, that was most important, like bgrv.now we know something about model 122c and 122e. what next developmemt after them?
 
flateric said:
Now this topic needs serious sorting things out...
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I nearly made the comment that my post was relevant to yours but not particularly to the actual thread topic
edit: having said that it does tie in timewise with the General Dynamics ISINGLASS contracts of '64 - '65
 
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